Charles Stanley

[mikedsjr]

Personally, I think D&R issue within the church is a real huge issue. Churches don't want to force divorce men and women to remain celibate for the remainder of their life based on Scripture, but their more than willing to raise the flag of homosexuality is a sin. Meanwhile Jack and Jill are living a life of sin due to their ungodly second marriage. Jack and Snow White divorce due to irreconcilable differences and John and Jill Doe separate due to abuse by John. But somehow the church congratulates Jack and Jill for their marriage because Jack is a respected leader in the church, gives lots of money from his business he owns and travels the world telling people about Jesus. And Jill is a children worship pastor with a wonderful bubbling personality. Obviously God blessed their marriage. Obviously.

Back when i was a Young Single adult i was condemned by my Single's Minister for my stance on D&R and was told by him the Bible says if you look on a woman you commited adultery (I guess that means all marriages are allowed to divorce). I was not asked to attend a christian wedding of two divorcees despite being a good friend, but i would have respectfully declined. Still friends with them, but not without a bit of disdain by the wife about my stance. She is over it now.

Personally, I think the divorce thing is secondary. Since he's still preaching I'd want to know if what he's preaching is the truth. And as far as I know, it is.

 

[baptist4life]

Mike Abendroth, a Baptist pastor and apprentice of John MacArthur,......

That's enough to disqualify him completely in my book. MacArthur is a Calvinist. I want nothing to do with him.

 

[jsimms615]

I do not know about his marriage break-up. I do know that his becoming pastor of First Baptist was turbulent. He shared his story in a message at DTS. He was on staff when the pastor took another church. He was asked to preach during the interim and did so. There became a group strongly desiring him as pastor but he said he felt God wanted him to just preach and pray.

He said that during this time a man who had been instrumental in his coming to FBC took him to lunch, handed him an envelope of cash and said it was his if he'd leave quietly. He said he was devastated.

After he was called as pastor, this same group still opposed him vigorously. The opposition came to a crescendo at a deacons' meeting when one of them took a swing at him. That action discredited the opposition and they left (about 300 as I recall). As soon as they left peace came to the church and growth began.

I attended during this process but as a college student was unaware of the dynamics.

I have often wondered how much that hurt his wife too. I am a pastor of 40 years and I know that mean sheep who attack a pastor often harm the pastor's family more.

So I suspend judgment on their marriage failure, but reality may be larger and more complex than than appearances.

A divorce decree does not necessarily state all of the dynamics since it is a public document.

He has talked about the turbulent period of his early pastorate in another book, but i don't remember which one at the moment. He mentioned a lady in the choir who one day took of her shoe and threw it at him in the middle of a service. It was a very difficult experience. But, He hung in there because he felt God leading him to stay and I admire him for it.
I know he was President of the Southern Baptist Convention. I think he was President twice if I remember correctly.

 

[Goodbook]

I have read a few of his books and was sad to hear he went through a divorce. i dont know why.

Other than that not really have much insight, but my opinion.....I know he is highly regarded and the things he wrote in his books didnt have any cause for concern for me, although I think he might have a dispy view on things and also seems to favour OSAS teaching...but thats neither here nor there. He presents a basic primer on christianity which is very bible based. But I think Ive grown more with scripture as Ive walked and read more, so..some of the things he writes are quite..how should I put it, simplistic.

Friend of mine watches him on tv in mornings when she cant make it to church but cant say I have.

 

[tulipbee]

According to CNN http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/17/us/andy-stanley/index.html

"He says he won't marry again as long as his ex-wife is alive because the Scriptures say that a divorced man who remarries commits adultery."

As long as he dose not marry it is o.k. But he should apologize for not allowing divorced people to serve as Deacons. Unless they remarry they are o.k. They just need to remain celibate.

He said he wouldn't preach at the pulpit if he divorced. He changed his mind after he divorced and preached at the pulpit. His son disagreed and said bye bye to his father's church. If he say he won't preach after remarrage, don't believe him cause he'll be right back at the pulpit so he can pay for his new cabin.

 

[John Robie]

He's one of those men that I no longer listen to because I think there are better men to listen to in my valuable time. But I wouldn't condemn anyone who listened to him, either.

 

[Apocolyptica]

He is such an awesome pastor and has been a huge blessing to me. There was a period in my life when I felt very lonely and I will never forget him explaining how Jesus on the cross is an expression of my worth. That's just one of numerous examples, you will be hard pressed to find anyone better.

 

[Saverio]

One thing I can say about Charles Stanley is that unlike most "televangelists" I've never heard him begging for money.

 

[CarlNH]

I believe he is a man of good character, unable to understand scripture. One example is a recent teaching that as a Christian matures, "he becomes more aware of sin". This is the exact opposite of the bible, and a gross misrepresentation of our identity in Christ. I do not think Charles does it intentionally, he just aint real deep.

 

[Hank77]

I believe he is a man of good character, unable to understand scripture. One example is a recent teaching that as a Christian matures, "he becomes more aware of sin". This is the exact opposite of the bible, and a gross misrepresentation of our identity in Christ. I do not think Charles does it intentionally, he just aint real deep.

Actually I agree with him. It's called sanctification.

 

[CarlNH]

Actually I agree with him. It's called sanctification.

No, it's called sin consciousness, or focusing on sin. It is the opposite of what Hebrews describes as a believer being no more conscious of sin. More aware vs less aware.....Stanley vs Bible

 

[Hank77]

No, it's called sin consciousness, or focusing on sin. It is the opposite of what Hebrews describes as a believer being no more conscious of sin. More aware vs less aware.....Stanley vs Bible

I'm not talking about sin consciousness. I doubt Pastor Stanley was either, but I didn't hear what you heard so I really can't say for sure.

 

[CarlNH]

In a recent InTouch program---->Attribute No. 2 of Maturing Christians: "We become more aware of our sins and the sin around us." Yes Hank77, Dr. Stanley was directly addressing, naming, and referring to sin consciousness. This was not a teaching on sanctification, or any other subject. It was clear the gentleman has no idea what the book of Hebrews or Romans states about a Christians identity in Christ.

 

[Hank77]

In a recent InTouch program---->Attribute No. 2 of Maturing Christians: "We become more aware of our sins and the sin around us." Yes Hank77, Dr. Stanley was directly addressing, naming, and referring to sin consciousness. This was not a teaching on sanctification, or any other subject. It was clear the gentleman has no idea what the book of Hebrews or Romans states about a Christians identity in Christ.

Heb 10:2 since, would they not have ceased to be offered, because of those serving having no more conscience of sins, having once been purified?
Heb 10:3 but in those sacrifices is a remembrance of sins every year,

What is Hebrews talking about? It is about having to keep repeating the same blood sacrifices over and over again and remembering sin. Never standing with an assurance of one's salvation in Christ, by His one time sacrifice, saved by His one time shedding of His blood. I can assure you that is not what pastor Stanley was talking about. Here are his own words about sin consciousness in Hebrews. Do a search on these pages for 'once purged.'
https://books.google.com/books?id=x...=Charles Stanley on sin consciousness&f=false

When we first come to Christ we may only be aware of the BIG sins that we have committed, but as we grow we begin to see not just the logs but the splinters as well. We repent and go on, knowing that the Holy Spirit, working in us, has revealed what is righteous and holy behaviors. We become more aware that we are not implementing those righteous behaviors as we want to.
I suppose it depends on how someone views the correction of the Holy Spirit. If one sees that correction as condemnation then they may perceive it as 'sin' remembrance or consciousness. But if one perceives it as a blessing one can rejoice in that one is the child of a perfect Father who corrects them for their own good. He does not hold it over their head and keep reminding them of past sin. It is over and done with, He threw it as far as the east is from the west, because we have been 'once purged' by the blood of Christ and have right standing with the Father, through Him.

 

[charles at doctrineprimer]

Anyone have any insight on this guy?

Charles Stanley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

All I really know of the guy is what I have heard from him while he was preaching. I heard he was divorced but don't know much other than that. I believe he is a great orator and very knowledgeable in the Word of God and I would not be afraid of reviewing his material if I was engaged in a study on a topic that he had once espoused upon.

 

[Dave2013]

He is a man of God. It is not for me to sit in judgment of Charles Stanley, just as he will not of me. The question is, "Do have any insight on this guy?" No I do not, and those on internet sites who say they do in a derogatory manner will have to answer to God one day. The world is going to hell, people all around us need Christ, and if I would pay more attention to listening to the voice of God and doing what He says I would not have much time to have insights about fellow believers. I say this with all due respect to the OP.

 

[98cwitr]

He is a man of God. It is not for me to sit in judgment of Charles Stanley, just as he will not of me. The question is, "Do have any insight on this guy?" No I do not, and those on internet sites who say they do in a derogatory manner will have to answer to God one day. The world is going to hell, people all around us need Christ, and if I would pay more attention to listening to the voice of God and doing what He says I would not have much time to have insights about fellow believers. I say this with all due respect to the OP.

By saying "He is a man of God" aren't you, in fact, judging him?

 

[Stringfellow_Hawke]

I hold him in high esteem. One of the better Bible teachers out there. I have a few of his books and have learned a lot from him.

 

[W2L]

Charles Stanley teaches obeying the Sabbath, on Sunday

 

[2win]

I don't write on here very offten, but I think Charles Stanly is a Godly pastor, but he is not sinless; "Will all who are perfect please cast the first stone." What I understand is he offered to resign, but the church wanted him to stay.