Charles Stanley

[mrhappy3]

Such a great teacher of the word - but dismisses the pentecostal experience.

How can this be ?

He says it has passed away (corinthians) similar to what the JW's say and other cessationists.

But I will say this, those that say the experience makes our walk with God better and it leads to a more fruitful life both for ourselves and others.....I disagree.

I have met more Spirit baptised "fruitcakes" than in any other group.

Maybe Mr Stanley has been put off.

 

[JEBrady]

Such a great teacher of the word - but dismisses the pentecostal experience.

How can this be ?

He says it has passed away (corinthians) similar to what the JW's say and other cessationists.

But I will say this, those that say the experience makes our walk with God better and it leads to a more fruitful life both for ourselves and others.....I disagree.

I have met more Spirit baptised "fruitcakes" than in any other group.

Maybe Mr Stanley has been put off.

Anyone who trades away the truth because of the behavior of men won't end up with much truth after all the trading is done. I don't think that's the case with Charles Stanley, and he certainly is a very apt teacher, but he always stops a brick short of a load because of his OSAS and anti-Pentecostal stance. Listening to him is simply grieves me, so I don't.

 

[mrhappy3]

Anyone who trades away the truth because of the behavior of men won't end up with much truth after all the trading is done. I don't think that's the case with Charles Stanley, and he certainly is a very apt teacher, but he always stops a brick short of a load because of his OSAS and anti-Pentecostal stance. Listening to him is simply grieves me, so I don't.

Good stuff.

although I'm a OSAS merchant as well. (wasn't always the case).

 

[DMW]

I agree with JEBrady. Charles Stanley also had a pentecostal upbringing from what I heard. None of us has the right to dismiss the baptism in the Holy Spirit. I also find OSAS wholly unbiblical, in spite of Mr Stanley's impassioned pleas for it. But thats another hot topic, now isn't it?

 

[disciple-ofjesus]

My issue with Mr. Stanley, is divorcing his wife and married again within a few weeks of that. (2 if I remember correctly.)

 

[Faulty]

Good stuff.

although I'm a OSAS merchant as well. (wasn't always the case).

Atta boy.

Is he really a cessationist or one of those who don't agree with the charismatic version of the filling of the Holy Spirit and rejects the supposed moves of God under men like Hinn and Bentley? I honestly don't know having not been exposed to his teachings, other that a few books 15 to 20 years ago.

I ask, because I do listen to another teacher, from time to time, who has been portrayed here as a cessationist, but the latter description is actually the correct description, rather than the label imposed by others who only assume based on what they've heard from others.

 

[mrhappy3]

My issue with Mr. Stanley, is divorcing his wife and married again within a few weeks of that. (2 if I remember correctly.)

His wife walked out on HIM.....I gather

He seems such a nice, gentle fellow

 

[JimB]

Such a great teacher of the word - but dismisses the pentecostal experience.

How can this be ?

*****

Charles Stanley is a “great" teacher?

Funny, I haven’t noticed. Famous, maybe, but "great"? ... I would question that.

IMO, Stanley is just another self-made Christian media celebrity.

~Jim

Even the smallest thing when, held close enough to the eye, can blot out the sun.​

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

Such a great teacher of the word - but dismisses the pentecostal experience.

How can this be ?

He says it has passed away (corinthians) similar to what the JW's say and other cessationists.

But I will say this, those that say the experience makes our walk with God better and it leads to a more fruitful life both for ourselves and others.....I disagree.

I have met more Spirit baptised "fruitcakes" than in any other group.

Maybe Mr Stanley has been put off.

What makes him such a great teacher?

 

[mrhappy3]

What makes him such a great teacher?

His lovely suits....:o

 

[disciple-ofjesus]

His wife walked out on HIM.....I gather

He seems such a nice, gentle fellow

nice and gentle on tv perhaps? maybe not so much so in the real world of love and marriage?

 

[RealDealNeverstop]

His lovely suits....:o

Not surprised.

 

[JEBrady]

Atta boy.

Is he really a cessationist or one of those who don't agree with the charismatic version of the filling of the Holy Spirit and rejects the supposed moves of God under men like Hinn and Bentley? I honestly don't know having not been exposed to his teachings, other that a few books 15 to 20 years ago.

I ask, because I do listen to another teacher, from time to time, who has been portrayed here as a cessationist, but the latter description is actually the correct description, rather than the label imposed by others who only assume based on what they've heard from others.

OSAS and cessationism typically have been major tenets of SBC churches, and as a youngster I grew up in SBC churches in the South. I was baptized in a Baptist church at the age of nine and it was my first encounter with the Holy Spirit. I had no idea at the time who He was or what He was, because the Baptists just don't teach about the Spirit, or at least they didn't in my experience back in the day. This isn't necessarily true in all cases today, as I have personally attended an SBC church that was full Gospel and had a better move of the Spirit than some Pentecostal churches I could name.

Cessationism, you must already realize, teaches that the manifestations of the Spirit were over after the canon was completed, and it's an unbiblical conclusion based on unbelief that comes from what one sees with one's own eyes. Anyone who refuses to accept the Word of God based on the behavior of men has been deceived. Concluding that any given brand of TV charismania discounts the revelation of scripture is error. Preaching against abuses is one thing, and anyone who really knows the move of the Spirit won't deny it based on man's behavior. I certainly don't buy into the circus of abuse that is getting so much airplay these days, but I can tell you I know the word of God with respect to the move of the Spirit is real, and I don't deny it.

On a side note, I expect these things to get worse and worse. Already I see Pentecostal churches buying into a fleshly replacement for the move of God in so many ways that I fear before too long Pentecost (as a movement) will be as dead as the other mainline church denominations whose day came and went long ago.

 

[mrhappy3]

OSAS and cessationism typically have been major tenets of SBC churches, and as a youngster I grew up in SBC churches in the South. I was baptized in a Baptist church at the age of nine and it was my first encounter with the Holy Spirit. I had no idea at the time who He was or what He was, because the Baptists just don't teach about the Spirit, or at least they didn't in my experience back in the day. This isn't necessarily true in all cases today, as I have personally attended an SBC church that was full Gospel and had a better move of the Spirit than some Pentecostal churches I could name.

Cessationism, you must already realize, teaches that the manifestations of the Spirit were over after the canon was completed, and it's an unbiblical conclusion based on unbelief that comes from what one sees with one's own eyes. Anyone who refuses to accept the Word of God based on the behavior of men has been deceived. Concluding that any given brand of TV charismania discounts the revelation of scripture is error. Preaching against abuses is one thing, and anyone who really knows the move of the Spirit won't deny it based on man's behavior. I certainly don't buy into the circus of abuse that is getting so much airplay these days, but I can tell you I know the word of God with respect to the move of the Spirit is real, and I don't deny it.

On a side note, I expect these things to get worse and worse. Already I see Pentecostal churches buying into a fleshly replacement for the move of God in so many ways that I fear before too long Pentecost (as a movement) will be as dead as the other mainline church denominations whose day came and went long ago.

The bit you said is astounding...

 

[mrhappy3]

It also seems to me that only the oneness apostolic pentecostals - stick to the plan.

They get their people through to a genuine experience, without being taught how to speak in tongues and other such nonsense.

although way off on some doctrines - they have kept faithful to the "true" pentecostal baptism in the Spirit.

I got it with them - and it was glorious.

 

[liketotalk]

My issue with Mr. Stanley, is divorcing his wife and married again within a few weeks of that. (2 if I remember correctly.)

Where did you get your information?

His wife is the one who filed for divorce. He has never gotten remarried and has no plans to.

I sometimes listen to his radio show and read his devotionals.

 

[liketotalk]

Nm

 

[disciple-ofjesus]

the fact is, he is divorced, promised to step down when it happened...then renegotiates staying? sorry. that spells all kind of wrong.

 

[KingZzub]

Well which is it?

Is he a great teacher or does he deny the gifts of the Holy Spirit?

You cannot be both.

 

[ARBITER01]

the fact is, he is divorced, promised to step down when it happened...then renegotiates staying? sorry. that spells all kind of wrong.

Well here is a wiki article,..

Dr. Charles Stanley's divorce[4] from his wife Anna in 2000 after several years of separation caused a minor scandal in the Southern Baptist Convention, a matter which was complicated by reports that Stanley had said he would resign as pastor if he was divorced. At the time, he did not believe his separation would result in divorce; however, when it did, the FBA members overwhelmingly voted to keep him on as pastor. According to church bylaws, Dr. Stanley will remain eligible to be pastor of First Baptist Church of Atlanta as long as he does not remarry. Dr. Charles Stanley's son Andy Stanley is the pastor of North Point Community Church in nearby Alpharetta, Georgia.


Stanley's wife of more than 40 years, Anna J. Stanley, originally filed for divorce on June 22, 1993, following their separation in the Spring of 1992; but, the two of them agreed Anna would amend the lawsuit to seek a legal separation instead ("separate maintenance"), while seeking reconciliation. She again filed for divorce on March 20, 1995.


Charles Stanley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia