Charles Darwin

[Champollion]

I want to know about fundamentalists. They have a major interest in Darwin and natural selection. The AP American History textbook uses their interest in Darwin as a defining quality.

I'm wondering what Darwin has to do with Christianity. He appears to me to have been an Atheist.

 

[HereIStand]

Natural selection is incompatible with the creation account in the Bible, although many Christians try to harmonize the two. Whatever Darwin's personal beliefs or intentions, following natural selection to its conclusion nullifies humanity as created in God's image. At best, it places the Creator in the background, creating life from a natural process, and long and cruel one at that.

 

[Dawnhammer]

At best, it places the Creator in the background,

Looking at every bit of evidence the Creator is giving of his existence it seems the background is His preferred position.

 

[JackRT]

The Theory of Evolution and the Genesis Creation Narratives are only a problem to those Christians who interpret the Bible in a literalistic way.

 

[HereIStand]

Looking at every bit of evidence the Creator is giving of his existence it seems the background is His preferred position.

The evidence can only be viewed that way assuming natural selection.

 

[joshua 1 9]

I'm wondering what Darwin has to do with Christianity. He appears to me to have been an Atheist.

When he washed out of school to be a doctor his dad put him in school to be a pastor. When he started his Voyage on the Beagle he would defend the christian faith. By the end he would argue against the Christian faith. Although his good friend Charles Lyell maintained his faith in God. When he lost his daughter neither Christianity or Science could do anything to comfort him.

Other people like Collins have had to reconcile the differences to give us Theistic Evolution today. Darwin did not seem interested to follow in Lyell's footsteps in regards to working out the differences between his faith and his science. Evolution suffered a lot because of that.

 

[joshua 1 9]

The Theory of Evolution and the Genesis Creation Narratives are only a problem to those Christians who interpret the Bible in a literalistic way.

I interpret the Bible in a literal way and I do not have a problem with theistic evolution. Although clearly there are issues that need to be resolved but we can only work with what evidence we have to work with. We are limited in the information we have to process.

 

[Champollion]

Natural selection is incompatible with the creation account in the Bible, although many Christians try to harmonize the two. Whatever Darwin's personal beliefs or intentions, following natural selection to its conclusion nullifies humanity as created in God's image. At best, it places the Creator in the background, creating life from a natural process, and long and cruel one at that.

Are you saying that Fundamentalists think that life is not a natural process?

Also, I wonder if Fundamentalists object to the time necessary for natural selection ... millions of years rather than six days.

 

[JackRT]

Are you saying that Fundamentalists think that life is not a natural process?

Also, I wonder if Fundamentalists object to the time necessary for natural selection ... millions of years rather than six days.

Yep.

 

[Champollion]

When he washed out of school to be a doctor his dad put him in school to be a pastor. When he started his Voyage on the Beagle he would defend the christian faith. By the end he would argue against the Christian faith. Although his good friend Charles Lyell maintained his faith in God. When he lost his daughter neither Christianity or Science could do anything to comfort him.

Other people like Collins have had to reconcile the differences to give us Theistic Evolution today. Darwin did not seem interested to follow in Lyell's footsteps in regards to working out the differences between his faith and his science. Evolution suffered a lot because of that.

Do Fundamentalists object to other scientists besides Darwin? For example, James Hutton or Jean-François Champollion?

 

[AV1611VET]

I want to know about fundamentalists.

Ask away ... you've come to the right place!

They have a major interest in Darwin and natural selection.

We do? That's news to me.

The AP American History textbook uses their interest in Darwin as a defining quality.

Never heard of it.

I'm wondering what Darwin has to do with Christianity.

Nothing.

He appears to me to have been an Atheist.

According to the Lady Hope Story though, he's in Heaven now!

 

[Champollion]

Yep.

So according to Fundamentalists, life is not a natural process. Is that a common belief among other Christians?

 

[JackRT]

So according to Fundamentalists, life is not a natural process. Is that a common belief among other Christians?

The belief in a literal and inerrant Bible and the rejection of the Theory of Evolution is actually a minority position in the worldwide Christian community. However in parts of the USA it is sometimes the majority understanding

 

[Champollion]

We do? That's news to me.

Have you ever listened to a sermon or Sunday School lesson about how the Bible is right and Darwin is wrong?

 

[redleghunter]

I want to know about fundamentalists. They have a major interest in Darwin and natural selection. The AP American History textbook uses their interest in Darwin as a defining quality.

I'm wondering what Darwin has to do with Christianity. He appears to me to have been an Atheist.

Citation please. Most fundamentalist theologians in the late 19th century considered Darwinism as the fruits of the devil.

 

[redleghunter]

Have you ever listened to a sermon or Sunday School lesson about how the Bible is right and Darwin is wrong?

Modern biologists are running away from being labeled "Darwinists." They know most of his work was debunked by 20th century science. Some do accept the label of Neo-Darwinist as only holding a philosophical position on evolution.

 

[redleghunter]

Are you saying that Fundamentalists think that life is not a natural process?

No that is not correct. It is obvious we live in a material natural world.

The difference for most Christians is we also believe in an uncreated Creator Who is not limited to His own creation and can supernaturally interact and has.

 

[redleghunter]

Yep.

No

 

[Champollion]

The belief in a literal and inerrant Bible and the rejection of the Theory of Evolution is actually a minority position in the worldwide Christian community. However in parts of the USA it is sometimes the majority understanding

So your belief in life's unnatural nature is somehow related to your belief in a literal and inerrant Bible. Is life unique in that respect? What other processes would you think of as not natural?

 

[Champollion]

No that is not correct. It is obvious we live in a material natural world.

The difference for most Christians is we also believe in an uncreated Creator Who is not limited to His own creation and can supernaturally interact and has.

So in you view, life is a natural process, and God created the process, is that right?