Chariot wheels

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CHARIOT WHEELS,...SCROLL AT BOTTOM OF PAGE:
http://www.arkdiscovery.com/red_sea_crossing.htm

My husband is reading on of Ron Wyatt's book about Israel's history.
Very good reads!

Peace,
Connie

 

[DailyBlessings]

I am not aware of anyone accusing Ron Wyatt of being a forgerer,

Then allow me to. I see no reason to believe that many of the claims on his site are merely innocent misunderstandings- some of the photos therein were clearly edited, for instance. And the text is filled with plain lies. For example:

The "deck timber" having been determined to contain organic Carbon, which means that it was once living, was found to have a unique characteristic in that It displayed no growth rings.

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In order to understand why the pre-flood wood showed no growth rings one needs only to consult the Bible. It informs us that before the flood it did not rain; therefore there were not wet and dry seasons. Growth was at a constant rate.

Any dendrochronologist could tell you that not all trees form rings- only a few can be used for this kind of analysis. The creators of the site could not have been unaware of this.​

 

[bertie]

It seems to me that the claims made by Ron Wyatt could be easily checked out by getting in touch with the isreali goverment to see if he actually has turned artifacts in to them and what those may be.
He mentions that the Isrealis got much of what he dug out of underneath Jerusalem..,...

 

[justified]

It could be sorted that way. Another way would be just to realise that there are several members of this forum who follow archaeological journals and Israeli newspapers. I have been to most of the sites claimed to have been visited by Wyatt and there was nothing of the sort I've heard about here. I've also studied under archaeologists and historians who live/d in Israel, and I can say the stuff he is talking about is non-existant.

 

[FreezBee]

Then allow me to. I see no reason to believe that many of the claims on his site are merely innocent misunderstandings- some of the photos therein were clearly edited, for instance. And the text is filled with plain lies. For example:

Ok, excuse me for not counting you in, DailyBlessings

- FreezBee

 

[RoseD]

" archaeologists and historians" who live/d in Israel======hi all! justify can you give me any sites in can look into?i have someone asking questions/non-christianand i'd like to be informedi've been a christian so long and it's sad i should have researched much by nowthanks in advance</p>

 

[justified]

" archaeologists and historians" who live/d in Israel======hi all! justify can you give me any sites in can look into?i have someone asking questions/non-christianand i'd like to be informedi've been a christian so long and it's sad i should have researched much by nowthanks in advance</p>

I will look around for you. I live in a town with over 200 libraries so I don't do a great deal of my research online. BTW, do you have a university or seminary library nearby?

 

[RoseD]

no, i don't . i do most things online. i find it difficult to find good christian resources....there are lots of secular views and i have to sort through them all to learn. i really appreciate this site and don't post much but read plenty or maybe you can recommend some good books...thanks!

 

[Diamonds2004]

The wheels on the chariot go round, and round, round and round. Just little fun.

 

[Dylan26]

The wheels on the chariot go round, and round, round and round. Just little fun.

Speaking of wheels going round and round. Many years ago, I accidentally ran into a program on TV called &#8220;Following in the Footsteps of Moses.&#8221; What I saw in this program simply blew me away. I do not know if this was Ron Wyatt's team, but a group of people had secretly entered Saudi Arabia looking for Moses Mountain. They made their way into this restricted fenced in area and found a Mountain that had 12 pillars around it and was blacken on top. The local people in the area called it Moses Mountain. They had video taped all this and it was very compelling. Does anybody know what the evidence is at the traditional Mt. Sinai site that proves it is the genuine site? I know that there is a Christian Church there that is about 1500 years old. But is there any real evidence? There was also a book by the same name but I have been unable to find either the book or video tape.

 

[Clay123]

Reguardless of what you may think of Ron Wyatt, Jabel EL Lawz exist in Saudi Arabia along with all of the evedince of the exodus including the under water land bridge coverd with coral incrusted items that look remarkably like chariot parts, there is a mountain peak close by that is made of granite that has been under intence heat that has glazed its serface black in such a way so as to give the appearance that the shadow of a cloud is over it, Jabel EL Lawz if not the site of the exodus then what is it, and who were the people that left all of the artifacts that so closely match the exodus story?

 

[Cooch]

While I'd love Wyatt's claims to be true, a couple of things force me to withold judgement.

(1) The sheer lack of convincing physical evidence that can be postively linked to the biblical episode that Wyatt claims. It is not enough to ask "well who else was there" in an area that has been occupied by a succession of empires and cultures since the time of Abraham. Photographs mean nothing, unless you are prepared to accept that photos of Moses exist, and that he looks remarkably like Charlton Heston! I think you get my drift.

(2) In at least one of Wyatt's claimed discoveries, Wyatt refuses to undertake the normal scientific process for validating a find - making your evidence and data available for independant scrutiny. I'm referring to Noah's Ark, and the following testimony by Dr John Morris who accompanied Wyatt to the proposed site.http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v12/i4/noah.asp

Pardon me if I take the scriptural injunction to "test everything" as applying in this case.

Warm Regards......... Peter

 

[Adventist Dissident]

While I'd love Wyatt's claims to be true, a couple of things force me to withold judgement.

(1) The sheer lack of convincing physical evidence that can be postively linked to the biblical episode that Wyatt claims. It is not enough to ask "well who else was there" in an area that has been occupied by a succession of empires and cultures since the time of Abraham. Photographs mean nothing, unless you are prepared to accept that photos of Moses exist, and that he looks remarkably like Charlton Heston! I think you get my drift.

(2) In at least one of Wyatt's claimed discoveries, Wyatt refuses to undertake the normal scientific process for validating a find - making your evidence and data available for independant scrutiny. I'm referring to Noah's Ark, and the following testimony by Dr John Morris who accompanied Wyatt to the proposed site.http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v12/i4/noah.asp

Pardon me if I take the scriptural injunction to "test everything" as applying in this case.

Warm Regards......... Peter

Cooch

I am really confused about your statment about not evidence, specifically in reference to exodus route. Puzzled. what do you need to believe? What evidence do you want. I believe that there has been plenty of evidence that matches the discription in the bible of the exodus account. I have watched a video "the exodus revealed: the search for the red sea crossing" it is very convincing to me of the "Arabian" theroy. I changed my view of the exodus because of it. they have all the element a person would need to verify the validity of such an event. Maybe you have not seen it. but I ask you again what evidence do you need?

 

[Cooch]

Cooch

I am really confused about your statment about not evidence, specifically in reference to exodus route. Puzzled. what do you need to believe? What evidence do you want. I believe that there has been plenty of evidence that matches the discription in the bible of the exodus account. I have watched a video "the exodus revealed: the search for the red sea crossing" it is very convincing to me of the "Arabian" theroy. I changed my view of the exodus because of it. they have all the element a person would need to verify the validity of such an event. Maybe you have not seen it. but I ask you again what evidence do you need?

icedragon....

The hard evidence available indicates only that the route is plausible, not that it it is proven.

What we have is an area which has been subject to human activity for millenia .... therefore signs of human activity might be the result of Moses' passing, or may just as reasonably be the product of quite another group of people. Hence my comment about the lack of hard evidence. To use a metaphor; we have the smoking gun, but Moses fingerprints are not on the handle.

It's a problem that all achaeologists face. When Heinrich Schliemann excavated Troy, he found what he thought was the treasure of the famed Helen, not realising that what he had found came from an older layer than that associated with the Greek wars.

This is why I remain healthily sceptical about Ron Wyatt. He has something of a history of not subjecting his evidence to the normal process of scientific verification.

Warm Regards......... Peter

 

[marshgreencohen]

the site's background music just scared me...

 

[DailyBlessings]

It's a problem that all achaeologists face. When Heinrich Schliemann excavated Troy, he found what he thought was the treasure of the famed Helen, not realising that what he had found came from an older layer than that associated with the Greek wars.

And according to some, he actually bought the jewelry at a shop in a nearby town and planted it. I'd say the two men are on par with each other, because they both had their obsessions, and when you are obsessed with finding one specific result, you cannot do good research. Finding the truth takes a backseat to finding what you want to find.

 

[pehkay]

You know I have this theory that Paul spend 3 years in Arabia ... he must try to re-trace the footsteps of Moses and the children of Israel out of Egypt. That where he got see the reality of Christ in all the Old Testament types, prophecies etc..

It could be that it's in Arabia after all ... just a thought