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Chariot wheels

FreezBee

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Here's a quote from the link

Archaeologist Ron Wyatt followed the Biblical account in determining that the children of Israel lived in the Nile delta area or the land of Rameses, and first encamped at the northern end of the Gulf of Suez or Succoth at the beginning of the Exodus.
(my emphasis)

Not to be t o o difficult, guys, but ...

Take a peek at this:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33168

Just a quote from the page:

Rives was a longtime partner of Ron Wyatt, an anesthetist and amateur archaeologist who died of cancer in 1999. Before passing away, Wyatt devoted years searching for and documenting physical evidence for events mentioned in the Bible. In addition to chariot wheels, Wyatt claimed to have found Noah's Ark on the mountain next to Ararat in Turkey, the "true" Mount Sinai in Saudi Arabia and the Ark of the Covenant with the Ten Commandments near the site of Jesus Christ's crucifixion.
(my emphasis)

So Ron Wyatt died in 1999 - and where are his finds today!

Sorry to disappoint you all :bow: :bow: :bow:


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Hello All:

I would like you to please be cautious when considering a source of information. There have been many who have questioned the truth of the discoveries of Ron Wyatt, his museum, and backers.

I don't know the truth of these discoveries, don't know if Ron Wyatt is/was above reproach, or a fraud. There are enough critics of his discoveries and proofs that I have strong doubts.

Sincerely,

CovenantRay :prayer:
 
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CovenantRay said:
.... the discoveries of Ron Wyatt, his museum, and backers.

Thanks for this info, CovenantRay :thumbsup: I didn't know that Wyatt had a museum, so I guess I'll have to take my words about, where his finds are now back :sorry:

For those who might like to pay a virtual visit to Wyatt's museum, there's a link here:

http://www.wyattmuseum.com/


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CovenantRay said:
Hello All:

I would like you to please be cautious when considering a source of information. There have been many who have questioned the truth of the discoveries of Ron Wyatt, his museum, and backers.

I don't know the truth of these discoveries, don't know if Ron Wyatt is/was above reproach, or a fraud. There are enough critics of his discoveries and proofs that I have strong doubts.

Sincerely,

CovenantRay :prayer:
You know this is good advice for me, thanks...:)
 
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Ron Wyatt obviously spent years in digging something in jerusalem..he and his sons along with other helpers that went with him at different times....
He claims to have seen,and spoken to an apparition of Christ,at one point in his digging...
The claims he has made about the ark of Noe,and the flood have since fizzled out at last report that i have read.....The formation turned out to be natural,....
There is indeed room for caution when examining his claims.
Whenever these stories start to twist or get muddy in regard to actual physical evidence,I at least tend to lose interest with every fresh side trip or foggy patch....
The result is usually that I tend to withdraw ....and focus attention elsewhere........
 
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It's nice to have all this feedback, when I was too lazy to look into it! I know that many archaeologists have had proven success with finding Biblical remains, and every object has to either end up somewhere or disintegrate. Whether these were real wheels or not doesn't bother me...it was just interesting.
 
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I've known about Ron Wyatt and his archaeology since about '95. I saw his videos, read his books, met him at his museum, listened to him speak to a roomful of us there, asked him questions, and spoke with him afterward. My parents went on one of his holy land expeditions visiting many of his archaeology sites. His critics are simply jealous and know they would have to be humbled if they were to accept his findings in place of what they have preached for so long.

The guy made himself available for challenging questions and always spoke the truth and answered the truth about what he did. ANYONE who says they got to ask questions of him honestly without ending up believing him has their own agenda. Wyatt was no con artist...he didn't have that kind of ability to con anyone.
 
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Thanks, Kenneth! Critics and skeptics (of anything) tend to forget that scientists, researchers and archaeologists spend their whole careers sifting through information, sometimes using cutting-edge technology and collaborating their findings with experts in the field. Then the average person runs across a paragraph on it, skims it, and makes a judgment call.
 
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heron said:
Critics and skeptics (of anything) tend to forget that scientists, researchers and archaeologists spend their whole careers sifting through information, sometimes using cutting-edge technology and collaborating their findings with experts in the field. Then the average person runs across a paragraph on it, skims it, and makes a judgment call.

True, but please note that in many cases archaelogical finds can be debated for a long time. Theories for and against the one or the other interpretation are put forth, considered, maybe rejected, and maybe the rejection is rejection, and so on.

There is no such thing as an uninterpreted find, and while the finder may certainly be in the best of intensions, we still tend to see, what we want to see. If you have looked in vain for a needle in a haystack, then every straw will start to look like a needle.

I am not aware of anyone accusing Ron Wyatt of being a forgerer, and the man might certainly have been a very charming and convincing person. Still, that does not rule out that alternate interpretations of his finds may happen to be closer to truth than Ron Wyatt's own.

Certainly, anybody is entitled to accept Ron Wyatt's finds, but just remember that people that do not accept them, are equally entitled to their position :)


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The man claimed he spoke to Jesus.......That he came and talked to him personally,one afternoon on his Jerusalem dig.......
That at least shows that he was no piker....I ddid not think that Christ would appear to anyone till we all see him at once..That is the impession i have alwys had....Angels maybe...but...?There are some very neatly rounded corners in his ark story,but if he did find it,then what he did with it should have got him zapped i think...
Whatever his motives,his Noahs Ark theory is defunct and debunked as a natural formation......
Firther exploratory dives should bring more evidence to light on the chariot wheels...
There certainly should be a lot of gold down there,if the best ones were plated with it.....one would think it worth the rffort to use an waterproof metal detector on the underwater debris down there....set to fine.........
 
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bertie said:
The man claimed he spoke to Jesus.......That he came and talked to him personally,one afternoon on his Jerusalem dig.......
That at least shows that he was no piker....I ddid not think that Christ would appear to anyone till we all see him at once..That is the impession i have alwys had....Angels maybe...but...?

Matthew 24
26"So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the desert,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it. 27For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man. 28Wherever there is a carcass, there the vultures will gather.


29"Immediately after the distress of those days
" 'the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light;
the stars will fall from the sky,
and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.'
30"At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. 31And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

bertie said:
Firther exploratory dives should bring more evidence to light on the chariot wheels...
There certainly should be a lot of gold down there,if the best ones were plated with it.....one would think it worth the rffort to use an waterproof metal detector on the underwater debris down there....set to fine.........

Yes, without a direct investigation by diving the supposed chariot wheels may be nothing more than corals or possibly garbage from a ship.


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bertie said:
The man claimed he spoke to Jesus.......That he came and talked to him personally,one afternoon on his Jerusalem dig.......

A correction should be made to the above quote: Ron BELIEVED he MAY have spoke to Jesus. He made it very clear that he did not know for sure, and he simply reported the facts surrounding that event that led him to believe the way he did.

bertie said:
Whatever his motives,his Noahs Ark theory is defunct and debunked as a natural formation......

There will always be scientists in disagreement on both sides. You're implying total agreement here.
 
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