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Bramwell

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Hey guys and gals!

I was thinking today about the concept of character, what it means, and the value we place on it in our lives as Christians. My thoughts were partially inspired by a sticky situation I got myself into, in which I ultimately did the right thing; but my actions were partially influenced by the people around me at the time, and what they would think of my actions.

Someone once told me that true character is not so much what we do; rather it's what we would do if we knew we could get away with it.

That said, I would appreciate hearing thoughts from others about what character means to them, the value they place on it, and its relevance to our life as Christians. Thanks.
 

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Hey guys and gals!

I was thinking today about the concept of character, what it means, and the value we place on it in our lives as Christians. My thoughts were partially inspired by a sticky situation I got myself into, in which I ultimately did the right thing; but my actions were partially influenced by the people around me at the time, and what they would think of my actions.

Someone once told me that true character is not so much what we do; rather it's what we would do if we knew we could get away with it.

That said, I would appreciate hearing thoughts from others about what character means to them, the value they place on it, and its relevance to our life as Christians. Thanks.

Interesting thought.

My mom used to say, honesty is a passport to anywhere in the world. Character determines destiny but I was bound in sin.

Character is defined as the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual.

As one saved by the life of Jesus (freed from the law), God's character is the measure to judge by. A unique quality in this world, not to our glory but all to Jesus. "For ye are the salt of the earth".

I think love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance...is the character to which we are destined, being born of his seed.

Galatians 5:5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.

I think the most profitable one in the world is temperance or self control. The others aren't so desirable to them.
 
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Hi Peter Andrew,

Thanks a lot for the prompt response. I agree with your definition for character.

I guess what I'm getting at, though, is that a lot of the "mental and moral qualities" unique to us are affected by public opinion. In other words, there is how we behave when no one is looking. And then there is how we behave when someone may or may not be looking. The latter is our outward image, while the former is our true self (or "true conscience" shining through).

We all have and are affected by our "social conscience" to varying degrees. This is that aspect of our being which takes into consideration what others think of us before taking certain actions. Such a social conscience is, in fact, quite normal; and it's only people generally considered insane who have little to no regard for society's opinion in determining their actions.

True Christian character, on the other hand, works independently from thoughts of others. It's only real concern is God, and what He thinks of our actions.

In the gospels, we hear numerous stories about (for example) religious leaders who preferred the "praise of men" to the praise which only comes from God. In fact to get the latter, we must risk the former.

Hypocrisy exists when we pretend to be one way, while actually being (or doing) another. Hypocrisy is also something Jesus preached most against (aside from greed).

I'm trying to establish a link between true character, sincerity, and its antithesis (i.e. hypocrisy). I wonder if anyone else can see such connections?
 
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True Christian character, on the other hand, works independently from thoughts of others. It's only real concern is God, and what He thinks of our actions.

In the gospels, we hear numerous stories about (for example) religious leaders who preferred the "praise of men" to the praise which only comes from God. In fact to get the latter, we must risk the former.

Hypocrisy exists when we pretend to be one way, while actually being (or doing) another. Hypocrisy is also something Jesus preached most against (aside from greed).

Yes, I see it, live in it, and as of late, self titled, Hypocrite Supreme,lol.

Here's the crux Bram. Most are taught primary thinking process. The Word shows secondary thinking process NT. We shuffle the thought processes for ... Normalcies sake.

If one had the structured id/psych to think secondary only , that would be Jesus.
If he showed up today we would label Him fanatic, insane or unstable as we kill Him again.

Found out the other day that, Martyr & Witness, are the same in Hebrew. We just don't think in these terms anymore (In USA) for the most part. Jesus witnessed to His death of truth, then, these verses kinda stick too... John 15:12-15 where He tells us what?
 
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Hi Peter Andrew,

Thanks a lot for the prompt response. I agree with your definition for character.

I guess what I'm getting at, though, is that a lot of the "mental and moral qualities" unique to us are affected by public opinion. In other words, there is how we behave when no one is looking. And then there is how we behave when someone may or may not be looking. The latter is our outward image, while the former is our true self (or "true conscience" shining through).

Hi Bramwell. I agree we all behave a certain way in public, complying with the protocol, whether its in church, at work, or dinner in a fine restaurant. Though we are all unique the image conforms to social mores. It's for self promotion and maintained in the public eye. I guess Friday night at the bars is for the true self.

Children also can be like completely different people when they are with their friends, than with their parents at home, making choices they ordinarily wouldn't.

Even pets behave differently when we're not looking. It's like freedom!

I think we make compromises when trying to please those important to us, but the danger is compromising oneself. Maybe it takes character.

We all have and are affected by our "social conscience" to varying degrees. This is that aspect of our being which takes into consideration what others think of us before taking certain actions. Such a social conscience is, in fact, quite normal; and it's only people generally considered insane who have little to no regard for society's opinion in determining their actions.

Yes, I see the influence on behavior by what other people think. Society puts a premium on image, and the one in fashion is the one people want. We desire respectability. If I were a slob and represented it to others, it would signal a character defect.

True Christian character, on the other hand, works independently from thoughts of others. It's only real concern is God, and what He thinks of our actions.

Thank God we're not of the world, but we still live in the world. To hear Him say well done is more valuable than what the world thinks of godliness as a character trait.

In the gospels, we hear numerous stories about (for example) religious leaders who preferred the "praise of men" to the praise which only comes from God. In fact to get the latter, we must risk the former.

Hypocrisy exists when we pretend to be one way, while actually being (or doing) another. Hypocrisy is also something Jesus preached most against (aside from greed).

Yes, those folks were zealous for the law but their hearts were far from God. They boasted in the law but were servants of sin, like the rest of the world.

I'm trying to establish a link between true character, sincerity, and its antithesis (i.e. hypocrisy). I wonder if anyone else can see such connections?

I'm not sure I understand. Are you judging character based on the law, doing the right thing for the right reason, and looking for a method? I don't see the link because the law condemns all. We would have to exceed the pharisees.

The true self is what determines character, and I see no profit if walking in the wicked way. The only other way is to be conformed to the image of Christ. That's where I can see a link between character and sincerity.

I can't see a link with those of the world. Because of the darkness, evil doers see themselves as good, which they prefer.

And we who are in the light still get tempted and do sinful things. It's not necessarily hypocrisy, but by God's grace every day we're putting on the new man. Can't help but loving the God who forgives iniquity; thank you Lord Jesus.
 
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That said, I would appreciate hearing thoughts from others about what character means to them, the value they place on it, and its relevance to our life as Christians. Thanks.

I don't like to judge people, but I think that a man/womans character is very important. How you act when people aren't looking is just as important as when they are. I feel that if you claim to be someone, you should live up to that. Ex: if I were to say I don't lie, then I should not ever lie. I don't like hypocrites or people who claim to be someone they aren't. It shows you are ashamed of who you are and that is no way to live. Be who you are and you will be surprised that you will meet many people like you who enjoy to be around you.

I feel that acting mature is quite important as well. But heck, we all need to be kids once in a while. You know, like riding a luggage cart down the hall at the hotel. But maturity is quite important.

I think that as Christians, we should live up to our character, claim to do and be only who we can be, and live up to it.

God Bless
 
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the feedback. I agree that we all adjust our behavior depending on who is looking. In many ways, that's just human nature.

I guess one perspective I've come to with more thought is the need for us to question our motives for adjusting our behavior around different people, as sometimes there can be good reasons to do so. For example, the Bible talks about "being all things to all men". And we know that, sometimes, addressing our style of speech, clothing, or mannerisms can make us more effective in reaching out to different people. Those are good examples of taking other people into consideration when determining our behavior.

But some questionable examples could be giving to poor people out of concern for what people would think if we didn't (e.g. how it looks for Christians to callously reject beggars). Another example could be changing our style of dress, not because we want others to feel more comfortable around us; but because WE want to be accepted by them. Those adjustments are not so defend-able on a Christian basis.

Anyway, thanks once again for the feedback. At least considering the issues has been helpful for me, I feel, in helping to clarify my perspective.
 
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