Changing the purpose of this forum

[sentipente]

Kindly explain this please.

(Eph 2:8) For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,


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Surely you understand that Paul is not a final authority and he did not correctly understand everything he wrote about.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

Surely you understand that Paul is not a final authority and he did not correctly understand everything he wrote about.

and the unreasonalbleness begins. Just admit you are wrong and be done with it.

 

[Adventtruth]

Surely you understand that Paul is not a final authority and he did not correctly understand everything he wrote about.

Once again you don't take my request, but you give your speculation without proving anything. Mere conjecture. You believe some parts of the bible while rejecting other parts.


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[Adventtruth]

and the unreasonalbleness begins. Just admit you are wrong and be done with it.

This has become the nature of his posting....typical at the least.

I'm even having a hard time understanding how this person can be a Adventist pastor.


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[sentipente]

Once again you don't take my request, but you give your speculation without proving anything. Mere conjecture. You believe some parts of the bible while rejecting other parts.


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If Paul was correct then Jesus was wrong in John 3:16. Take your pick.

 

[sentipente]

This has become the nature of his posting....typical at the least.

I'm even having a hard time understanding how this person can be a Adventist pastor.


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Big deal. It just shows that your present understanding is lacking. No problem. We all have to grow.

 

[sentipente]

and the unreasonalbleness begins. Just admit you are wrong and be done with it.

Please explain what you believe is unreasonable.

 

[Adventtruth]

If Paul was correct then Jesus was wrong in John 3:16. Take your pick.

(Eph 2:8) For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,

(Joh 3:16) "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.



So how are they different? Kindly explain please.


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[Adventtruth]

Big deal. It just shows that your present understanding is lacking. No problem. We all have to grow.

Ok Pastor sentipente....please help me in my understanding of the two text...Eph 2:8 and John 3:16. How are they not saying the samething? OR are you not a pastor contrary to your profile?


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[sentipente]

Ok Pastor sentipente....please help me in my understanding of the two text...Eph 2:8 and John 3:16. How are they not saying the samething? OR are you not a pastor contrary to your profile?


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This last sentence reveals a great deal about you and the way you think. I don't care for your aspersions.

 

[StormyOne]

Ok Pastor sentipente....please help me in my understanding of the two text...Eph 2:8 and John 3:16. How are they not saying the samething? OR are you not a pastor contrary to your profile?


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totally unnecessary......

 

[Avonia]

OR are you not a pastor contrary to your profile?
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Why take a cut at your brother like this?

 

[Adventtruth]

This last sentence reveals a great deal about you and the way you think. I don't care for our aspersions.

You guys are to much here. So whats wrong with asking a serious question. All I asked was is are you a pastor...it says so in you profile. Its public record in the profile. If you don't want to be asked don't put it there. Now you have turned this into a red herring. Why don't you get back to the original topic and answer the questions.

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[Adventtruth]

totally unnecessary......

Maybe not to you stormy...but I want to know is he a SDA Pastor? Whats so bad about that?

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[Adventtruth]

Why take a cut at your brother like this?

And whats the cut? Can you ask a simple question around here? If he is or if he's not, whats so hard about that question? I honestly don't see what the problem is. So maybe one of you three quys can tell me.

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[sentipente]

You guys are to much here. So whats wrong with asking a serious question. All I asked was is are you a pastor...it says so in you profile. Its public record in the profile.

How can you be honestly asking when it is already plainly stated? Do you think that my profile was written by someone besides me?

 

[sentipente]

Maybe not to you stormy...but I want to know is he a SDA Pastor? Whats so bad about that?

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Where in the post in question did you ask about religious affiliation?

 

[Adventtruth]

How can you be honestly asking when it is already plainly stated?

Because I assume you where a SDA pastor. And if that is so, you are not of the 28 funnies. Your teaching seems to be more universalist in character and I know of no official SDA pastors who hold to such teaching as you do. If I hurt you with that question, I do apologise. I had no idea that it was such a hurtful question. I don't want to hurt any one. I apologise.

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[sentipente]

Because I assume you where a SDA pastor. And if that is so, you are not of the 28 funnies. Your teaching seems to be more universalist in character and I know of no official SDA pastors who hold to such teaching as you do. If I hurt you with that question, I do apologise. I had no idea that it was such a hurtful question. I don't want to hurt any one. I apologise.

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Apologies accepted. From now on I will adopt the explanation given by Pastor David Newman who says: I believe all the fundamental doctrines of the SDA church but I interpret them differently from most people.

 

[Adventtruth]

Where in the post in question did you ask about religious affiliation?

sentipente...I have debated with many SDA pastors on issues of faith and doctrine. And they all fit the SDA mold. But when I debate with you, its so contrary of an Adventist pastors that I was thrown for a big loop. Your ideas about faith and doctrine is so unlike an Adventist trained pastor. Thats why I asked if you are a SDA pastor. If I crossed lines I had no right to cross, I apologise.

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