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I often ask various questions of Atheists that I wouldn't bother asking of a Muslim and visa versa. Is that a sin or something?
I was just confused, as it wasn't making sense. Why, in a thread where members are talking about their own changes in beliefs, would someone use another member's individual post about their own change of beliefs, as a springboard for their own remarks. It didn't make sense, so I ASKED for clarification. Is that a sin or something?
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I was just confused, as it wasn't making sense. Why, in a thread where members are talking about their own changes in beliefs, would someone use another member's individual post about their own change of beliefs, as a springboard for their own remarks. It didn't make sense, so I ASKED for clarification. Is that a sin or something?
Touche'
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Thank you, sir!I must say, you often make me giggle. It's one of your more redeeming qualities IMO.
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I must say, you often make me giggle. It's one of your more redeeming qualities IMO.
More like guffaw.
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Huh, fair enough I guess. I am into biology related fields, but the extent of my physics is mostly restricted to when it relates to chemistry.
New bodies? Sure, why not, although it would bother me if that body didn't appear as I was in life; it would be bad enough as it is to try to find people I knew without them having a different physical appearance on top of it.
My memories are what make me who I am; that is why I would seriously contemplate suicide if I was diagnosed with a disease such as Alzeheimer's. Conditions like that rob you of your mental and physical capacities; they rob you of what makes you who you are as a unique individual, and then they kill you. Most people diagnosed with these conditions die within 5, perhaps 10 years the tough ones, and plenty die sooner, so it wouldn't be as though I was robbing myself of any productive years. I know a great deal of how those diseases work, and let me tell you, anyone diagnosed with it shouldn't be expected to be cures. Likely when cures are developed they will be preventatives, not treatments for an established disease.
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PsychoSarah
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Yet, that post alone, granted such attention hogging.
I know, this thread got way off track
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I blame you asking about my determinism.
Why? By your logic, she actually had no choice in the matter.
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Why? By your logic, she actually had no choice in the matter.
ISEEWHATYOUDIDTHERE!
She is still responsible for the thread derail if my statement holds, just in the way a hurricane is responsible for massive damage to coast, not in the metaphysical or personal sense.
Nice try though.
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PsychoSarah
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ISEEWHATYOUDIDTHERE!
She is still responsible for the thread derail if my statement holds, just in the way a hurricane is responsible for massive damage to coast, not in the metaphysical or personal sense.
Nice try though.
Hahahaha, I don't mind, I am often the source of threads derailing. But I didn't throw it this off topic.
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Mr Strawberry
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So basically you haven't got the faintest idea what a soul/spirit might be, how you might distinguish it from your imagination, or even what part of you is supposed to survive your death. All you have are some bible quotes which sound all nice and significant but are in fact completely useless and evidently as uninformative to you as they are to everyone else. (Looks like those ancient world scribblers were just making it up as they went along again). Still, I guess they didn't know that consciousness was one of the functions of the brain. Not much of you left without that organ - just a big fat nothing - but good luck anyway.
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... You guys are a riot!As I have always said here:
You guys pester us to death until we dare say, "I don't know," then you guys really go to town.
I told a new convert the other day (ex atheist and loves to debate) that unbelievers will try anything to get you to say, "I don't know," so they can claim victory.
They'll take basic doctrine, like Original Sin or Jesus' Deity, and ask 30 questions if they have to, to get you to say, "I don't know" one time.
Then they'll retrofit that back through the chain of questions to make the [false] point that you really don't know anything.
I just recently found out that that is called "spreading."
It's really a form of tag-teaming, where one person asks a good question, then others join in to demand explanations of every jot and tittle, until they hear those magic words: "I don't know."
Thanks for the QED.
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Mr Strawberry
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Not knowing what a soul is might be amusing for us, but for you....less so.
Not having the faintest idea what the soul might be is rather serious for you considering it's the bit of you that you are hoping will survive your death - a vain hope, admittedly, but one that you have staked rather a lot on. Consequently, being unable to say it's a real thing and not just something that's been made up would seem to be rather important for you.
It's not a victory for me, I already know that the soul is a made-up concept. It is you who have banked so much on some imaginary part of you surviving your death.
That's because it's so easy to do. Stuff people have made up is usually riddled with holes.
If you can't distinguish your soul/spirit/whatever from a figment of your imagination then it rather pulls the rug from under the rest of what you think you know.
I'd call it pointing out a problem for you.
I'm seeing an awful lot bluster and excuses and blaming it on everyone else, but I'm not seeing you getting any close to solving your rather significant problem.
Your "I don't know" answer isn't my problem, it's yours.
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Dr. Rational again, with only brain summaries of things you have no experience of.
Although it is in your midst you have zero awareness of the Spiritual Dynamics going on. You are in a clear dilemma in life and don't know it, Dr. Intelligent. Your wisdom has become worthless. You have the wrong wisdom (James 3:15).
Back to square one or continue down your Dr. Arrived path?
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