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Then I would have to ask what you did in the thread to provoke it being deleted.Actually, when you're banned, you don't have access to the Advisors. I found that out during my week off. You can't do anything but post in the Complaint Box. And, if they delete your thread, you are hosed. There is no PM.
I'm not sure that this is entirely helpful, PW.
Contact Us always works, too, and we check that daily.
I'm not sure that this is entirely helpful, PW.
No, it's just showing that we're getting half the story.
No, it's not. But it is expected.
If you can't see that, I honestly don't know what to say.
For a long time. Both on staff and off I have said that a key to fixing anything about CF is to refill the reservoir of goodwill between members and staff. That's been bone dry for sometime. But we need it to have any real progress.
But, for what my opinion is worth, I think that is genuinely being attempted right now and I applaud those dialoging on both ends toward that goal. And the many who have worked hard towards that goal in ways we will not see.
I know many who feel they were hurt or mistreated in the past will be very cautious and doubtful (in the least) of the possibility any real and substantial changes.
For those who know me, I really and in good faith, urge that the benefit of the doubt be extended until you see whatever is being worked up on issues like appeals. Extend that benefit cautiously but extend it. And for those working on all of this, know in many cases there is a fragile goodwill for many. But I am sure that is known.
But in the end, the paradox is that to refill the empty reservoir of goodwill, we need to extend to each other...goodwill. On a Christian board, that is the least we should be able to do.
And how are YOU helping things here, CaDan?
I dunno about that mindset.Really...
You really think that someone beating a dead horse over and over again every time we have one of these threads is "helping"?
Let me say it one last time, and maybe it will sink in. Those who are banned have access to the advisors. It is the advisor's decision as to whether they can come back. People here continually "campaigning", even for unnamed banned people, aren't going to get them back. This isn't the thread for it, and continually bringing it up here is just going to get someone in trouble.
Really...
You really think that someone beating a dead horse over and over again every time we have one of these threads is "helping"?
Let me say it one last time, and maybe it will sink in. Those who are banned have access to the advisors. It is the advisor's decision as to whether they can come back. People here continually "campaigning", even for unnamed banned people, aren't going to get them back. This isn't the thread for it, and continually bringing it up here is just going to get someone in trouble.
W00T.Oh, and speaking of dead horses . . . .
The hand of the LORD was upon me, and carried me out in the spirit of the LORD, and set me down in the midst of the valley which was full of bones, and caused me to pass by them round about: and, behold, there were very many in the open valley; and, lo, they were very dry.
And he said unto me, Son of man, can these bones live? And I answered, O Lord GOD, thou knowest.
Again he said unto me, Prophesy upon these bones, and say unto them, O ye dry bones, hear the word of the LORD.
Thus saith the Lord GOD unto these bones; Behold, I will cause breath to enter into you, and ye shall live:
And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.
So I prophesied as I was commanded: and as I prophesied, there was a noise, and behold a shaking, and the bones came together, bone to his bone.
And when I beheld, lo, the sinews and the flesh came up upon them, and the skin covered them above: but there was no breath in them.
Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.
So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army.
Although you and I aren't on the "same page" on some theological stuff, I've always highly respected you as a poster and staffer (and sorry to see you now off staff).
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Too bad banning and such can't go like Correcting a Believer in the Bible.
15 If another believer[a] sins against you, go privately and point out the offense. If the other person listens and confesses it, you have won that person back. 16 But if you are unsuccessful, take one or two others with you and go back again, so that everything you say may be confirmed by two or three witnesses. 17 If the person still refuses to listen, take your case to the church. Then if he or she wont accept the churchs decision, treat that person as a pagan or a corrupt tax collector.
We always seem to stop short of this last step.
I don't think we typically get to the FIRST step.
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