What would it take to challenge your belief that the Bible is the inspired word of God?
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Challenging your belief in the Bible
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Lisa0315
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Not a whole lot. It has helped me too much to doubt its power. I cannot think of a thing except that I die and God Himself tells me the whole thing was bunk.
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Goodness! You're full of questions! Can't help but wonder why...
Your endless questioning reminds me of a verse in Scripture:
"...ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth." (2 Ti. 3:7)
Hmmm....
Peace to you.
Your endless questioning reminds me of a verse in Scripture:
"...ever learning and never able to come to a knowledge of the truth." (2 Ti. 3:7)
Hmmm....
Peace to you.
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Why the questions? Well, in some respects I'm a follower of Socrates.
"The unexamined life is not worth living."
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The Bible is Truth. As for your OP, it takes quite a bit to actually get me seriously thinking and asking 'what if Christianity is a load of hooie?'. Are you asking us to give a defense, or are you curious for more knowledge of our beliefs? Also, why do you want to know? I'm curious.
Hey buddy- it's called the GOOD NEWS for a reason. It means we're preaching GOOD NEWS.
Totally out of line.
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If you follow this line of reasoning then what you are basically saying is that anything that doesn't agree with the Bible is a lie from Satan and the way you know it's a lie is because the Bible says so. Doesn't that seem rather circler to you?
I'm asking what I would have to show you for you to question your belief on the divinity of the Bible. As to why, if you say there is nothing I could show you that would do that then that shows that Christianity forces people to abandon reason. If you say there is something then I can look for it.
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Why should we do your job for you?
I will tell you one thing that stumped me for a moment, and that was the issue of slavery. However, I studied it out and was thrilled with the answer God gave to me. You see, of course there are things in the Bible that cause us to pause and wonder. God ordering the slaughter of innocents? There is another one. What you cannot comprehend is that we have the Holy Spirit dwelling inside of us. When we have questions, we pray, we study, and God always provides an answer. I have never, ever come across a question that I could not answer. If no other answer is available, the Sovereignty of God answers all.
God does what God does, but whatever God does, He has a plan and a purpose. This is truly the greatest distinction between believers and non-believers.
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I have to be out of earshot from the Holy Spirit for that to happen. Sadly, that occurs sometimes. The cares of this life can choke out the Word of God, and there have been times in my life - in the past, by the grace of God - when I have wanted the pleasures of sin more than the truth of God's word, which can hurt.
Without the inner witness of the Holy Spirit, I suppose it would be circular. You see, for the Christian the origin of Truth is God (He is the ultimate truth, that's why the capital T), and the primary message He has for us humans is in the Bible.DarkProphet said:
Actually, we don't abandon reason - we just start from God and work from there. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
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The question seems imply there is information to challenge a belief the Bible is the inspired word of God.
Just for the sake of clarity, would you please present your understanding of the phrase "inspired word of God"? For example, the wording taken literally could mean the Bible is not the divinely inspired inerrant word of God or the Bible is not the divinely inspired word of God. Those are significantly different from being the inspired word of God.
Once you have decided on a definition for the phrase "inspired word of God", and assuming there is information to challenge one's belief in the Bible, what is the information?
Curious as always,
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Why not? because nothing exists that contradicts the Bible or because you would refuse to look at something like that?
From my point of view I'm doing your work for you. Christians are the ones who should be asking these questions. Although to be fair a few Christians do, mostly children, but they are never given answers.
So you define truth to be God and whatever he says it is... fine. However, you would have to show that the Bible is the inspired word of God before you could call it truth.
It's not really reason if you start from where you want to end up.
I've always viewed wisdom as knowing what you don't know.
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I hate multi-quoting! I am a very anti-multi-quoting.
You only replied to the joke in my post. I gave you several examples of things that I have questioned and received answers on. So, I did your job for you and you ignored it. What gives?
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That would be correct.
I'll go with divinely inspired, I'm sure at least a few Christians admit to errors in the Bible.
This is more an exercise to see if Christians would be able to come up with any hypothetical pieces themselves rather then presenting anything. If you cannot come up with anything that could show that the Bible is not the word of God then you are to closed minded to bother showing any kind evidence to anyway.
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Fair enough, I'll admit I got lazy.
Your questions and answers are all Bible centric... the OP is on the divinity of the Bible so the fact you found answers in the Bible is rather moot.
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I don't feel any obligation to do that. It is what it is. As Jesus said, "Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing....." (John 5:19)
According to your definition of wisdom. There are many definitions of wisdom - the socratic/human-centered kind is not the same as the godly kind.
That's not what the Bible says.
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Well, it was not entirely based on Scripture, but divine revelation from the Holy Spirit. I am simply not that good of a Bible scholar to understand such things as deep as why God would order the destruction of children. Sorry, the Bible is not independent of the Holy Spirit, but they work concurrently.
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