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[MaxR1996]

How? How does it matter?

I've shown you it's not stopping people from believing in god...and you just stated you don't think god cares....

So what's the point of this massive conspiracy? You still haven't given one that makes any sense.

It proves God, it proves the Bible.

It makes people know that they are INSIDE God's creation.

INSIDE the Dome/Firmament.

We found the edge in 1958 in Antarctica.

For the last 400 years or so, since Capernicus, there was no way to PROVE the Globe earth or Flat Earth.

It wasn't until recently that we could go HIGH enough or FAR enough, to physically reach the top or outer edge of the Firmament, that we are inside of.

In 1958, the government decided NOT to tell people.

That's why they signed a treaty in 1961 making it government property blocked off.

The same year major expeditions to Antarctica stopped, 1958, was the same year the first moon missions started. The purpose for the moon missions purely to get 1 "picture" of the "globe" earth.

The government does this, because government is inherently evil ( Ephesians 6:12 ), and because if people know God is real the government loses their authority.

 

[lesliedellow]

This isn't fake

So there are amateur rocketeers. As I recall, they typically use sugar for their fuel. What is that supposed to prove?

 

[MaxR1996]

So there are amateur rocketeers. As I recall, they typically use sugar for their fuel. What is that supposed to prove?

It proves that the Earth is flat. It is impossible to see the moon 70 miles above Nevada, when it is across from Australia, on a Globe. It is only possible, if it the earth is flat, because as you go higher you begin to see both of them, which are inside the firmament, the greater light and the lesser light.

 

[Douggg]

...I'm describing a hypothetical situation where you get to watch the earth forming....the beginning of mankind, all of it....

So what you would be seeing would be the "proof"...

You understand what the word "hypothetical" means, don't you?

Ana, can't you show me some mercy, and show me the proof without all the pressuring me to commit to changing my beliefs aforehand? Your proof should be able to stand on its own merit. Irrespective of my beliefs.

 

[DogmaHunter]

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." - Hebrews 4:12

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." - Matthew 24:35

"The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times" - Psalms 12:6

"There can be only one" - Duncan Macleod.

 

[ximmix]

We are living inside a firmament.

Can you post a close up photo of this firmament..?

 

[lesliedellow]

It proves that the Earth is flat. It is impossible to see the moon 70 miles above Nevada, when it is across from Australia, on a Globe. It is only possible, if it the earth is flat, because as you go higher you begin to see both of them, which are inside the firmament, the greater light and the lesser light.

I don't know how to tell you this, but any rocket which wants to stay up there has to go into Earth orbit. Which, by the way, is one more reason why the Earth can't be flat.

 

[[serious]]

http://www.hdwallpapersonly.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/New-York-City-Skyline-3.jpg

No sun
no stars

Fake. Try again.

 

[MaxR1996]

Can you post a close up photo of this firmament..?

You're looking at it 24/7, it is the sky. The outer edge exists in Antarctica.

 

[MaxR1996]

I don't know how to tell you this, but any rocket which wants to stay up there has to go into Earth orbit. Which, by the way, is one more reason why the Earth can't be flat.

Earth doesn't have an orbit.

 

[Nithavela]

MaxR1996, you are my new favorite forum member.

 

[ximmix]

You're looking at it 24/7, it is the sky. The outer edge exists in Antarctica.

So it isn't a solid dome with the stars, sun and moon attached..?

 

[MaxR1996]

So it isn't a solid dome with the stars, sun and moon attached..?

Correct.

The dome is solid.

The Sun, Moon, and Stars are just lights inside the dome.

Greater light and lesser light.

Genesis makes it explicitly clear that these lights exist INSIDE the firmament
Genesis 1:14-15

So you can't be a Bible believing Christian and not believe this.

 

[lesliedellow]

Earth doesn't have an orbit.

Yes it does (round the Sun), and, even if it didn't, anything which didn't want to come plunging straight back to Earth would to orbit the Earth.

 

[MaxR1996]

Yes it does, and, even if it didn't, anything which didn't want to come plunging straight back to Earth would need an orbit.

Thats what you don't get, theres no comets or meteors, or external objects, there is no "space", all the stars are just light inside the firmament.

 

[lesliedellow]

Thats what you don't get, theres no comets or meteors, or external objects, there is no "space", all the stars are just light inside the firmament.

So you admit that the video you posted earlier is a fake. After all, there is nothing (according to you) for the rocket to fly into.

 

[MaxR1996]

So you admit that the video you posted earlier is a fake. After all, there is nothing (according to you) for the rocket to fly into.

No....The video is real

Its flying inside the firmament....

 

[lesliedellow]

No....The video is real

Its flying inside the firmament....

Not if it is going to be high enough to photograph the flat Earth, it isn't.

 

[MaxR1996]

Not if it is going to be high enough to photograph the flat Earth, it isn't.

You can't go high enough to get a full picture, I hope you understand that, unless you reach the absolute top/center, and still you would need a certain lens.

 

[MaxR1996]

Heres a flat earth photo:
http://www.isack-art.com/data/photos/516_1cleopatra_panoramic.jpg