Challenge

[DogmaHunter]

I'm just going based of what the Bible says.

The bible describes a flat, stationary earth, surrounded by a firmament.

Has it perhaps occured to you that the bible might be wrong about that?


Make no mistake though, I don't believe for a second that you are serious.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Why, yes... education is sooooo evil.
Education must be stopped!

/end-sarcasm

The sheer number of these types of threads shows they aren't being addressed properly.

The discussion should be about what happened to this person that caused him to go online and argue for a flat earth, or dinosaurs walking around with people. Trying to convince them they're wrong is tantamount to slamming your head in a car door.

 

[MaxR1996]

Find a Photo of the Earth and post the link.

You can't.

Because there are no photos of something that doesn't exist.

We are living inside a firmament/dome, and the earth is flat and stationary exactly as the bible describes.

4 Pages down, and my statement stands. No one can find 1 Photo.

 

[lesliedellow]

Still Not 1 PHOTO of the earth.

Doubtless this is all a wicked conspiracy by the American National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Doubtless this is all a wicked conspiracy by the American National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

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Really it would have to be so much larger than that...every telephone company, satellite radio, t.v., literally everyone with a satellite would have to be in on it.

All to convince this guy that the earth is round when it's really flat....hardly seems worth the effort.

 

[Douggg]

Lol you're being ambiguous when I'm asking you for clarity.

I have to be ambiguous in the face of ambiguity as you had offered nothing so far.

 

[MaxR1996]

Doubtless this is all a wicked conspiracy by the American National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.

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I said a photo, that image is rendered.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I have to be ambiguous in face of ambiguity as you had offered nothing up to that point.

I offered you a hypothetical scenario wherein you're given absolve proof you're wrong.

Do you understand it now?

 

[MaxR1996]

What verses describe a flat, stationary earth, surrounded by a firmament?

"He set the earth on its foundations, so that it should never be moved." - Psalms 104:5

"And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: " - Genesis 1:14

 

[MaxR1996]

Has it perhaps occured to you that the bible might be wrong about that?


Make no mistake though, I don't believe for a second that you are serious.

"For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any two edged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart." - Hebrews 4:12

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." - Matthew 24:35

"The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times" - Psalms 12:6

 

[Douggg]

I offered you a hypothetical scenario wherein you're given absolve proof you're wrong.

Do you understand it now?

I need to see the face of your scenario - that's the only thing I can respond to - right now I cannot evaluate claimed "absolve proof" that has no face. What's the proof?

 

[MaxR1996]

I'm not really surprised at this...I doubt anyone is. Would you say they support your particular views about the earth and reality in general? Or do they think the earth is round?

They disagree with it.

As I said I gets these views from God, not church.

 

[MaxR1996]

You probably think man and dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time too...yes?

Dinosaurs never existed.

 

[MaxR1996]

A flat Earth is a special brand of nuttiness, which embarrasses even the majority of fundamentalists.

And how silly would you feel If you were wrong...

I believed for the first 18 of years of my life the earth was a globe.

I was wrong

 

[MaxR1996]

And yet...there it is...

What's been done to this young man should be a crime. Imagine all that has to be undone just so he can understand his reality in a way that doesn't require massive conspiracies against him? Imagine what that kind of world must be like...

I came to this belief on my own, no one "did" anything to me. Its what the education systems have done to you all that should be a crime.

 

[MaxR1996]

I don't think it is...I've seen what evangelicals do to their children. It's legal, since you're allowed to teach your children whatever you like in this nation....but it looks monstrous to me.

No one is my family is Christian.

 

[Ana the Ist]

I need to see the face of your scenario - that's the only thing I can respond to - right now I cannot evaluate claimed "absolve proof" that has no face. What's the proof?

...I'm describing a hypothetical situation where you get to watch the earth forming....the beginning of mankind, all of it....

So what you would be seeing would be the "proof"...

You understand what the word "hypothetical" means, don't you?

 

[MaxR1996]

Perhaps he isn't hopeless...but I don't think we can reach him. He has to want to know truth.

The same goes for you. You have to want to know the truth.

 

[Ana the Ist]

No one is my family is Christian.

You from Tennessee? Arkansas?

 

[Ana the Ist]

The same goes for you. You have to want to know the truth.

Well I do...the difference is how we evaluate truth claims. You use a 2000+ year old book written by a Jewish cult.

I use reality, common sense, logic, reason.