The GT is 3 1/2 years not 7. 1260 days, 1290 days or 1335 days, which ever one you pick it is not 7 years. The 7 year theme comes from the popular Pre-Trib view of which many favor, based on the 70th week of Daniel which was a Messianic prophecy that introduced the arrival of Jesus. He was cut off in the middle of the 70th week and that was that.
I never said the GT is 7 years. The GT is 3 1/2 years and the Tribulation is 7 years. The GT starts with Rev. 9.1 and comprises the 3 woes. Before the 3 woes are the 4 trumpets in Rev. 8 which are also 1260 days for a total of 2,520 days for all 7 trumpets of the Tribulation--Daniel's final seven. Jesus was cut off after the 69th seven, not in the 70th seven. Jesus is not the prince of the Romans. Jesus only ministered 3 years. Jesus does not make desolate. Since the declaration to rebuild the Temple to the time Jesus was cut off is after 173,880 days this brings us to March 28, 33 AD. Jesus died on the cross April 1, 33 AD (Gregorian). How silly the second half of the 69th seven would overlap the first half of the 70th seven. That is totally inconsistent with all the sevens which were consecutive. Dan. 9.26 is the Temple destroyed in 70 AD, so it wouldn't make much sense then Jesus died on the cross after the 70 AD in Dan. 9.27. You're ass backwards. Therefore, Dan. 9.27 is about the peace accord for 7 years in which Antichrist breaks it replacing the sacrifices to copy what Jesus already did nearly 2000 years ago. Not sure why this would necessitate a pre-trib or post-trib view. You don't say.
A Pre-Trib view ... hopeful at best . Last trumpet means last trumpet. In a series of trumpet sounds, that would be #7. Sorry to disagree.
I believe the last trumpet is the 7th trumpet. The Tribulation starts with the 1st trumpet (Rev. 8.7).
The book of Revelation is not in chronological order. It is presented as a sphere of events that are accummulative, overlap and go back and forth in time to show different vantage points. The scroll with 7 seals was already opened 1980 years ago when Jesus arrived in heaven. If it wasn't opened, how would John have seen the contents. Think of it as a play that was written; Act 1 starts when the trumpets start to blow.
"Blow a trumpet in Zion,
And sound an alarm on My holy mountain!
Let all the inhabitants of the land tremble,
For the day of the Lord is coming;
Surely it is near". Joel 2:1
I believe the 6 Seals are the past 20 centuries. The 1st Seal is the cross in which we see what would be a bow and arrow that looks like a cross but the arrow has been shot giving Satan a deadly wound. I believe Jesus opened the little book in Revelation 5 and the Seals began to be broken open. Since the Seals are the past 20 centuries, the 7th Seal opens up the 7 Trumpets of the Tribulation and the 7th Trumpet pours out the 7 Bowls of Wrath. Think of it
like a lock tumbler, not a constant repeating of what was already said. Rev. 7 to 11 are the major points of the Tribulation's 7 years; Rev. 12 to 19 are the details and take a look at different aspects of the Tribulation. The Seals are opened in secret these past 2000 years in this
mystery age of the Church. Trumpets are loud like the Tribulation and the last 24 months of the Tribulation is the 7th Trumpet contain the Bowls of Wrath. They are bigger than cups and poured silently because so much is happening so fast in the last 24 months.
Something like a huge mountain on fire is thrown into the sea creating massive tsunamis affecting 1/3 of the planet, destroying ships and igniting 1/3 of the planet on fire. The wormwood that poisons underground aquafers has already begun in Japan and after such a worldwide earthquake, many nuclear plants will suffer the same damage. Revelation 8 describes these things in the trumpets.
This is rather the Vatican being nuked in agreement with Revelation 17.16. There is no massive tsunami hitting 1/3 of the planet. In the first half of the Tribulation religious Rome is destroyed (Rev. 17); in the 2nd half of the Trib political Rome is destroyed (Rev. 18).
"These shall hate the harlot, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire" (Rev. 17.16). First half the nuke of the Vatican! "Great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea" (Rev. 8.8). This is the Vatican in Rome being blown up and cast into the sea; the city on 7 hills.
"There fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp" (Rev. 8.10). This is that nuclear missile heading toward the Vatican leaving just one man left to be the Pope, the 666th Pope by Roman Numerals, Peter of Rome.
It seems of have a numerology of sorts adapted to scriptures. Many people have tried to date set in the past and have been wrong -- all of them. But you have it right? You are spending a lot of time for what reason? Isn't knowing the season enough ... our generation?
As you see it --watch yourself claiming God gives any date since Jesus did say no one knows the day or the hour ...
I am glad you can't show any numerology. I don't use numerology. God gave the date.
Jesus said you can "know" even "right at the door" (Matt. 24.33). How much more clear can Jesus be? You accuse Him of numerology. Everyone was wrong before because they didn't believe in
partial rapture in which Rev. 6.12 (Haiti 2010/Japan 2011, long H3 Nov. 3, 2013, Tetrad 2014/15) occurs before the Tribulation starts. And the Tribulation's seven years can't extend past 2023 because that would be more than a lifetime (Ps. 90.10). But there are 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets Sept. 14, 2015 to Tisha B'Av Aug. 7, 2022 so that is the 7 years just as the last two feast Tetrads occurred when Israel became a nation and entered Jerusalem. These things are quite simple, hardly taking much time at all. Why would you need to spend so much time on this? Unless you are confused.
Jesus said nobody knows the day or hour of the end of the world, but Jesus returns 1000 years before the end of the world. Read Matt. 24.35-36.
The wrath begins in the 7 bowls of wrath in the full poured out at the sound of the 7th trumpet at which time we are raptured, sorry to burst your bubble -- it's quite a big bubble you've created! When the trumpets blow and you are still here, then you will know that the Pre-Trib view is wrong. But it looks like you won't be convinced until then. Don't worry, you'll recalibrate your numbers quickly and make the corrections.
The wrath (Tribulation) begins right after the 6th Seal (Rev. 6.17). As we get into the 7 years the intensity increases, hence,
the bowls of wrath in the last 24 months. The first rapture is according to readiness (Matt. 24.40-42, Luke 21.36, Rev. 3.10) "before the throne" (Rev. 7.9) in 3rd heaven before the 1st trumpet of the Trib (8.7). The general rapture and resurrection starts at the top of the 7th trumpet (11.15, 14.14-16, 1 Thess. 4.14-18) then the bowls of wrath are poured out in the 7th Trumpet. Sorry to burst your bubble but you won't be returning with Christ to reign during the 1000 years because you accuse the brethren day and night who will be first raptured according to readiness.
There are advanced parties and harbingers in every sphere. When it is all throughout the news Sept. 14, 2015 Feast of Trumpets there will be two possibilities. The reason you accuse them is because you are a carnal Christian who will lose rewards OR it is because you are a false Christian. I favor the latter given what you said next.
There's no need of a third temple.The Temple was made obsolete by Jesus when he died on the cross. The veil was torn and then at Pentecost, we became the Temple of the Holy Spirit. It would be a contradiction for God to require another temple for that reason ... or more sacrifices. That would actually be an insult to Christ who abolished the Old sacrificial system. This is also a Pre-Trib teaching; the 70th week, abomination of desolation, bla, bla, bla has already occurred. A Peace Treaty, yes but in the first 3 1/2 years, -- that's what the antichrist brakes, then the GT starts. However, the two witnesses do create some natural havic, famines and such, this may not be a peacful time yet concerning war against Israel, it's restrained during this time.
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But H2 Hummers are wide right? The H3's aren't coming out til 2172? Ah shucks.
The 3rd Temple is needed because Jesus returns to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years before transitioning to the New City with His people. Our bodies were always the temple. The veil was torn so the Holy Spirit would indwell the Temple. When Jesus reigns on earth He must do so from somewhere, from the land of Israel and the 3rd Temple. The Antichrist will be in the Temple (2 Thess. 2.4) during the Great Trib, but this time the Temple won't be destroyed (Rev. 11.2). Jesus doesn't want Israel to sacrifice animals, but He does want to reign in His Temple with a "rod of iron". I suspect since you deny the existence of the Antichrist you will accept him as Jesus when he comes on the scene. You already do by how you read Dan. 9.27 who is the Antichrist that you say is Jesus.
The Two Witnesses are Enoch and Elijah the only two persons to have never died but were raptured alive. We are appointed once to die; they shall die during the Great Trib.
Your right on the money!
