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[HitchSlap]

I'd have to admit this is the strangest forum to meet an Atheist.

It's like me going to the Richard Dawkins forums.

I take it you don't like challenging your beliefs?

 

[I'm_Sorry]

I take it you don't like challenging your beliefs?

No I question your motive.

Is that why you are here? To try and "educate" us Christians.

 

[HitchSlap]

No I question your motive.

Is that why you are here? To try and "educate" us Christians.

Save yourself the cogitation, and just ask.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Save yourself the cogitation, and just ask.

I ask then.

 

[HitchSlap]

I ask then.

I started my journey here on CF as a Christian. Now I'm not.

And I stick around to point out absurd conspiracy claims, like flat-earthers. This is an education thing, not a Christian thing.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

I started my journey here on CF as a Christian. Now I'm not.

And I stick around to point out absurd conspiracy claims, like flat-earthers. This is an education thing, not a Christian thing.

If you reject God you're not educated.

I pray God drags you back to Christ by your ear.

 

[HitchSlap]

If you reject God you're not educated.

I pray God drags you back to Christ by your ear.

Don't waste your time.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Don't waste your time.

You're not dead yet.

Not a waste of time.

 

[HitchSlap]

You're not dead yet.

Not a waste of time.

Better yet, if I ever see him, I oughta' drag him by the ear for letting 21,000 people die from starvation every day.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Better yet, if I ever see him, I oughta' drag him by the ear for letting 21,000 people die from starvation every day.

That has many variables, tell me who governs those who starve? Which King?

 

[HitchSlap]

That has many variables, tell me who governs those who starve? Which King?

The one who created them all.

 

[Radrook]

Better yet, if I ever see him, I oughta' drag him by the ear for letting 21,000 people die from starvation every day.

Approx 15 million 120 thousand in two years? That's rounding off the months to 30 days each.
That's a lot of people! Four years would be approx. 30 million 240 thousand. Eight years would be 60 million 480 thousand.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

The one who created them all.

He didn't create evil.

 

[HitchSlap]

He didn't create evil.

Sure he did, and he has the power to stop it. Unless you don't think your god is omniscient.

 

[HitchSlap]

Approx 15 million 120 thousand in two years? That's rounding off the months to 30 days each.
That's a lot of people! Four years would be approx. 30 million 240 thousand. Eight years would be 60 million 480 thousand.

Hunger Facts | Action Against Hunger

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Sure he did, and he has the power to stop it. Unless you don't think your god is omniscient.

No that rational fails biblically.

God is not the Author of Nothingness (Evil) as He is the only all existing something (Good).

satan created nothingness, the opposite of God.

"Originating with Greek philosopher Epicurus,[20] the logical argument from evil is as follows:

1. If an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent god exists, then evil does not.
2. There is evil in the world.
3. Therefore, an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God does not exist.

This argument is of the form modus tollens, and is logically valid: If its premises are true, the conclusion follows of necessity. To show that the first premise is plausible, subsequent versions tend to expand on it, such as this modern example:[2]

1. God exists.
2. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent.
3. An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.
4. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.
5. An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
6. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
7. If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God, then no evil exists.
8. Evil exists (logical contradiction).

Both of these arguments are understood to be presenting two forms of the logical problem of evil. They attempt to show that the assumed propositions lead to a logical contradiction and therefore cannot all be correct. Most philosophical debate has focused on the propositions stating that God cannot exist with, or would want to prevent, all evils (premises 3 and 6), with defenders of theism (for example, Leibniz) arguing that God could very well exist with and allow evil in order to achieve a greater good."

 

[HitchSlap]

No that rational fails biblically.

God is not the Author of Nothingness (Evil) as He is the only all existing something (Good).

satan created nothingness, the opposite of God.

"Originating with Greek philosopher Epicurus,[20] the logical argument from evil is as follows:

1. If an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent god exists, then evil does not.
2. There is evil in the world.
3. Therefore, an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God does not exist.

This argument is of the form modus tollens, and is logically valid: If its premises are true, the conclusion follows of necessity. To show that the first premise is plausible, subsequent versions tend to expand on it, such as this modern example:[2]

1. God exists.
2. God is omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent.
3. An omnibenevolent being would want to prevent all evils.
4. An omniscient being knows every way in which evils can come into existence, and knows every way in which those evils could be prevented.
5. An omnipotent being has the power to prevent that evil from coming into existence.
6. A being who knows every way in which an evil can come into existence, who is able to prevent that evil from coming into existence, and who wants to do so, would prevent the existence of that evil.
7. If there exists an omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent God, then no evil exists.
8. Evil exists (logical contradiction).

Both of these arguments are understood to be presenting two forms of the logical problem of evil. They attempt to show that the assumed propositions lead to a logical contradiction and therefore cannot all be correct. Most philosophical debate has focused on the propositions stating that God cannot exist with, or would want to prevent, all evils (premises 3 and 6), with defenders of theism (for example, Leibniz) arguing that God could very well exist with and allow evil in order to achieve a greater good."

Your god created Satan.



Oops.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Your god created Satan.
Oops.

Yes He created him Lucifer who was good to begin with.

Lucifer had the creative power to create the opposite of God by his own will, not Gods will.

And then he was stripped and became condemned aka satan.

You create evil and God tolerates it. But He wont for eternity. Hence the Tree of Life was guarded so that no man may eat of it.

You meant it for evil and God meant it for Good.

We cant comprehend the entirety of His way.

We know He is Good as thats His eternal character. Holiness, Love, Righteousness- GOOD

 

[Strathos]

Yet they don't take genesis literally. Otherwise they wouldn't accept the heliocentric view point.

Nor even address ET and say they would baptize them.

You cant baptize an Angel and definitely not an Angel who has fallen.

Once again, you are missing the point. I don't deny that Catholics are inconsistent in what to interpret literally or not, but I'm pointing out that you are too.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Once again, you are missing the point. I don't deny that Catholics are inconsistent in what to interpret literally or not, but I'm pointing out that you are too.

Please brother, explain the chronology of Genesis in helocerntic theorem.
Explain the chronology of the creation of life within genesis in evolution by natural selection theorem.