Celibacy question

[Boidae]

Nope.

As a Jew, you could justify marriage as a godly thing. But as a Christian, which I am assuming you are, you cannot.

There is more against marriage than for it in the New Testament bible.

At best, it is a worldly ordeal designed for nothing more than making more little Christians and at worst, it is a sinful distraction that takes away from our walk with the Lord.

Revelations even says those who follow the Lamb (Jesus) are VIRGINS, for they have not been defiled with women.

Nothing positive about sex there, nope.

As I said, your interpretation is way off.

 

[Avniel]

Nope.

As a Jew, you could justify marriage as a godly thing. But as a Christian, which I am assuming you are, you cannot.

There is more against marriage than for it in the New Testament bible.

At best, it is a worldly ordeal designed for nothing more than making more little Christians and at worst, it is a sinful distraction that takes away from our walk with the Lord.

Revelations even says those who follow the Lamb (Jesus) are VIRGINS, for they have not been defiled with women.

Nothing positive about sex there, nope.

Then why did Jesus make water into wine at a wedding?

With what you are saying is contradicting scriptures, God doesn't lie.

 

[Avniel]

As I said, your interpretation is way off.

It's not just off its made up.

No where in the bible does it say sex inside marriage is a sin.....If that was the case that sex is a sin the bible contradicts itself and God doesn't lie.

where do people come up with this??????????

 

[Ash Crimson]

So how did you get sex inside marriage is a sin???

Church tradition.

Read the writings of Augustine, Jerome and others to see what they thought of sex and women.

You can't discard church tradition since it is built upon the bible. The whole 1 Corinthians 7, Revelations 14 and Matthew 19 verses are all anti-sex and marriage.

I'm not making this up.

If you want to be worldly, fine. Just stop pretending you're pursuing holiness when you're not interested in that.

 

[Boidae]

Church tradition.

Read the writings of Augustine, Jerome and others to see what they thought of sex and women.

You can't discard church tradition since it is built upon the bible. The whole 1 Corinthians 7, Revelations 14 and Matthew 19 verses are all anti-sex and marriage.

I'm not making this up.

If you want to be worldly, fine. Just stop pretending you're pursuing holiness when you're not interested in that.

Oy Vey! (seems to be my favorite saying today)

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

...I'm also asking how to know if God is going to send me someone and is there a way I could pray that He would make it clear?.. .

The reality is, that God may not want you to marry, and may have other plans for you, e.g Mother Teresa was a single woman.

Would you be willing to accept that and deny your own self, your own feelings and own wants?

[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Matthew 16:24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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[Avniel]

Church tradition.

Read the writings of Augustine, Jerome and others to see what they thought of sex and women.

You can't discard church tradition since it is built upon the bible. The whole 1 Corinthians 7, Revelations 14 and Matthew 19 verses are all anti-sex and marriage.

I'm not making this up.

If you want to be worldly, fine. Just stop pretending you're pursuing holiness when you're not interested in that.

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY SEX IS A SIN???

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

WHERE IN THE BIBLE DOES IT SAY SEX IS A SIN???

Sex is beautiful between husband and wife, but it's a sin OUTSIDE of marriage.

God bless.

 

[Avniel]

Sex is beautiful between husband and wife, but it's a sin OUTSIDE of marriage.

God bless.

I'm with you I just don't see where in my KJV its going to say sex is a sin inside of marriage

 

[Ash Crimson]

Celibacy is the higher path to God, the Bible is clear.

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

I'm with you I just don't see where in my KJV its going to say sex is a sin inside of marriage

Who said sex is a sin in marriage? And why do you they say it and what source are they using?

 

[Avniel]

Who said sex is a sin in marriage? And why do you they say it and what source are they using?

Ash said it I am still waiting on the scripture that states sex is a sin.

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

Ash said it I am still waiting on the scripture that states sex is a sin.

I should have know it was Ash. Well let me tell you my friend, Ash is a FALSE TEACHER and I have exposed him already in other threads.

Ash teaches a false gospel based on WORKS and PERFECTIONISM and Ash teaches that anyone who sins is rejected by God and lost, yet he continues to sin himself as he has not reached perfectionism and has not perfectly stopped sinning for the rest of his life.

So I would not be concerned what Ash teaches, as he is a false teacher who contradicts the pure gospel and Scripture.

Every Christian forum gets false teachers.

God bless.

 

[Ash Crimson]

I should have know it was Ash. Well let me tell you my friend, Ash is a FALSE TEACHER and I have exposed him already in other threads.

Ash teaches a false gospel based on WORKS and PERFECTIONISM and Ash teaches that anyone who sins is rejected by God and lost, yet he continues to sin himself as he has not reached perfectionism and has not perfectly stopped sinning for the rest of his life.

So I would not be concerned what Ash teaches, as he is a false teacher who contradicts the pure gospel and Scripture.

Every Christian forum gets false teachers.

God bless.

And you preach a false message of "Sin all you want, God doesn't care." which is even worse.

 

[Ash Crimson]

BTW, a piece of paper means nothing. If something was wrong before you had a piece of paper, it was wrong after. Or, better to say, it is SINFUL (since wrong and sinful are not always the same thing).

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

And you preach a false message of "Sin all you want, God doesn't care." which is even worse.

Thou shalt not falsely accuse thy neighbour.

Your comments prove yet again the bad fruit in you, for if the Holy Spirit was truly in communication with your heart, then you would know that I have never taught that people should sin all they want. Your lying about me exposes the spirit that is communicating with you.

Repent and come to to Christ and Bible alone.

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

BTW, a piece of paper means nothing. If something was wrong before you had a piece of paper, it was wrong after. Or, better to say, it is SINFUL (since wrong and sinful are not always the same thing).

It's obvious you have never understood how God views sin and what happened to sin at Calvary, so I will explain it to you now.

This is what the Bible says:

Hebrews 9:26 – He did away with sin on the Cross
Hebrews 9:28 - He took away the sin of the world at the Cross
Colossians 2:13 - He forgave all sins on the Cross – past present and future
Hebrews 1:3 – God cleansed all sins on the Cross
2 Cor 5:19 - God no longer counts the world’s sins against them
Hebrews 10:17-18 – God has forgiven all sins and forgotten them.
Micah 7:19 - God has thrown all our sins into the depths of the sea.

Hence, Jesus took away sin completely at Calvary, it's done! Hence, John said, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the SIN of the world", John 1:29. Notice SIN is singular, not plural! Jesus took away sin completely at Calvary, it's done, it's complete, IT IS FINISHED, John 19:30

Sin is not what causes a person to be lost, because sin problem was fixed by Jesus at Calvary. What causes a person to be lost is their rejection of the love of the truth, and Jesus IS the truth, John 14:6, so if you refuse to love the truth, you refuse to love Jesus.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

 

[Ash Crimson]

It's obvious you have never understood how God views sin and what happened to sin at Calvary, so I will explain it to you now.

This is what the Bible says:

Hebrews 9:26 – He did away with sin on the Cross
Hebrews 9:28 - He took away the sin of the world at the Cross
Colossians 2:13 - He forgave all sins on the Cross – past present and future
Hebrews 1:3 – God cleansed all sins on the Cross
2 Cor 5:19 - God no longer counts the world’s sins against them
Hebrews 10:17-18 – God has forgiven all sins and forgotten them.
Micah 7:19 - God has thrown all our sins into the depths of the sea.

Hence, Jesus took away sin completely at Calvary, it's done! Hence, John said, "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the SIN of the world", John 1:29. Notice SIN is singular, not plural! Jesus took away sin completely at Calvary, it's done, it's complete, IT IS FINISHED, John 19:30

Sin is not what causes a person to be lost, because sin problem was fixed by Jesus at Calvary. What causes a person to be lost is their rejection of the love of the truth, and Jesus IS the truth, John 14:6, so if you refuse to love the truth, you refuse to love Jesus.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.

That sounds an awful lot like Antinomianism to me. We can just do whatever we like, and it's all fine and dandy? No sir, I don't think so.

Sin has consequences. If you want to dance, you must pay the piper.

 

[TruthSeeker2012]

That sounds an awful lot like Antinomianism to me. ...

No, what I wrote sounds like Bible truth!!!

According to you, we still have a SIN PROBLEM that we need to take care off. Yet according to John and Bible, Jesus TOOK AWAY SIN at Calvary:

John 1:29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

According to you, Jesus' sacrifice at Calvary was not enough to atone for the world's sin, and was not enough to pay for all mankind's sin!

You have FAILED to want to understand what Jesus' death and sacrifice at Calvary meant and how it completely paid for the sin penalty.

You are a false teacher and you contradict Scripture and now you teach the "bewitching" gospel that Paul rebuked in Gal 3, that we need HUMAN EFFORT to pay for our sins because Jesus was unable to completely pay for our sins!

 

[Ash Crimson]

No, what I wrote sounds like Bible truth!!!

According to you, we still have a SIN PROBLEM that we need to take care off. Yet according to John and Bible, Jesus TOOK AWAY SIN at Calvary:

John 1:29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

According to you, Jesus' sacrifice at Calvary was not enough to atone for the world's sin, and was not enough to pay for all mankind's sin!

You have FAILED to want to understand what Jesus' death and sacrifice at Calvary meant and how it completely paid for the sin penalty.

You are a false teacher and you contradict Scripture and now you teach the "bewitching" gospel that Paul rebuked in Gal 3, that we need HUMAN EFFORT to pay for our sins because Jesus was unable to completely pay for our sins!

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Cor 6:9

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. Gal 5:19-22

For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Eph 5:5,6

Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Rom 3:31

For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. Rom 2:12,13

Since I can just do whatever I want, then the sky's the limit! Someone P.O.es me, I can kill them. Some irritates me, I can cuss him out. If I want sex, I can go out and sleep with whomever I want, right?