Celeberties
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Hey Bear! This is the first time today I've been on the boards, so I'm a little behind here (like say, 2 pages worth?).
The funniest thing I heard, and I wish I could remember what news program I heard it on, but it was when a group of celebs were spoutin' off about Iraq. One of the reporters wanted Martin Sheen's opinion on something, and he said, "Mr. President! blah blah blah...". I have to question the intelligence of that reporter.
Martin Sheen responded that he only played a President. I think that sometimes the actors who have their multi-million dollar mansions, private jets and foo-foo clubs forget that they aren't running the country.
I could care less what their stance is on politics. I don't even care if they create a protest ~ that's their right, like every other US citizen's. What I do have a problem with, is for someone like Sean Penn (for heaven's sake) going over to Iraq and giving support to a dictator. What's up with that? Now, Saddam Hussein is congratulating the Hollywood set for discouraging President Bush/war with Iraq. How nice.
The Hollywood folk that are speaking out are democratic/left supporters (which is fine). Democrats have long said that they are the compassionate group for the common everyday person. That's great. Where's the compassion for the 25 million people in Iraq that are starving and terrorized? Why didn't Sean Penn actually make himself useful (for a change), and be that compassionate democratic supporter and help the civilians there rather than schmooze up to a tyrrant?
RAR!
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you are a piece of work cammie. and who do you suggest should monitor and regulate what celebrity gets to speak and about what? Maybe we should keep your views off of this forum. I am only making a point mind you, I apologize if I am breaking and forum rules
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Originally posted by blindfaith
Hey Bear! This is the first time today I've been on the boards, so I'm a little behind here (like say, 2 pages worth?).
The funniest thing I heard, and I wish I could remember what news program I heard it on, but it was when a group of celebs were spoutin' off about Iraq. One of the reporters wanted Martin Sheen's opinion on something, and he said, "Mr. President! blah blah blah...". I have to question the intelligence of that reporter.
Martin Sheen responded that he only played a President. I think that sometimes the actors who have their multi-million dollar mansions, private jets and foo-foo clubs forget that they aren't running the country.
I could care less what their stance is on politics. I don't even care if they create a protest ~ that's their right, like every other US citizen's. What I do have a problem with, is for someone like Sean Penn (for heaven's sake) going over to Iraq and giving support to a dictator. What's up with that? Now, Saddam Hussein is congratulating the Hollywood set for discouraging President Bush/war with Iraq. How nice.
The Hollywood folk that are speaking out are democratic/left supporters (which is fine). Democrats have long said that they are the compassionate group for the common everyday person. That's great. Where's the compassion for the 25 million people in Iraq that are starving and terrorized? Why didn't Sean Penn actually make himself useful (for a change), and be that compassionate democratic supporter and help the civilians there rather than schmooze up to a tyrrant?
RAR!
Does that answer your question about how I feel about this Bear?
You are not making your point clear enough. Stop sugar-coating things.
I don't think anyone's opinions should be squelched. And where is the playing field leveled to where all have an equal say? --- at the voting booth. A celebrety's vote counts just the same as anyone else's.
So, it boils down to a well informed descision on how to vote. And, this is the crux of the matter, when it comes to celeberties using their acting or music popularity, (clout), to influence votes on an issue.
Interestingly, many of the people who are all for getting special interest groups and money out of politics, have absolutely no problem with multi-millionaire celebreties championing an issue, with any and all media at their disposal. The terms 'fair and balanced' and 'equal time' elude them.
I'll get back to this thread in a bit.
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IslandBreeze
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I don't know if you're breaking forum rules, but you certainly are being rude. Why should I not get the choice who I listen to on TV? Why is it only celebrities get FREE air time to spout of uneducated bunk? The TV stations who ALLOW these people on are the ones who should monitor what is said on air. One celebrity on an MSNBC news show said G*d d*** and NOTHING was said. NO apology, nothing. All because they were so passionate about their viewpoint (which the host eventually corrected him on because he was completely inaccurate). I'm glad everybody but me gets to speak their opinion without being insulted.
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Let's not belittle each other. Everyone is free to express their points of view here, as long as they jive with the forum rules.
And that includes points of view that you disagree with.
Let's all give each other a big hug now, ok?
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you little buddy,
Zach
Let's not belittle each other. Everyone is free to express their points of view here, as long as they jive with the forum rules.
And that includes points of view that you disagree with.
Let's all give each other a big hug now, ok?
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you little buddy,
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coastie is right. Let's keep our comments and remarks on the topic at hand, and refrain from personal attacks.
Discussions go much better, and are more enjoyable that way.
Discussions go much better, and are more enjoyable that way.
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I liked this Bear;
Yep, that's me!! I'm such a quiet mousy type of person hehe.
Anyway, I also liked this about your post;
I couldn't agree with you more! I'm not sure how many times I've posted here at N&CE to those who cannot stand President Bush; "if you don't like him, don't vote for him next time around". It can't be simpler.
But here's my problem when it comes to celebrities; they're given an "idol" type reputation, which makes it very easy for them to schmooze their way into the media/politic forum. If I was as popular as some of them, I'm sure I'd be out there on the media circuit supporting President Bush instead of taking vacation time in Baghdad (*ugh*).
I have no problem, as I said before, with anyone forming a protest. But I do have a problem with those who are in the limelight embarassing me, as a citizen of the United States for being an idiot kissing up to Hussein. Gimmee a break.
Now, do you want me to tell you how I really feel?
Yep, that's me!! I'm such a quiet mousy type of person
hehe.Anyway, I also liked this about your post;
I couldn't agree with you more! I'm not sure how many times I've posted here at N&CE to those who cannot stand President Bush; "if you don't like him, don't vote for him next time around". It can't be simpler.
But here's my problem when it comes to celebrities; they're given an "idol" type reputation, which makes it very easy for them to schmooze their way into the media/politic forum. If I was as popular as some of them, I'm sure I'd be out there on the media circuit supporting President Bush instead of taking vacation time in Baghdad (*ugh*).
I have no problem, as I said before, with anyone forming a protest. But I do have a problem with those who are in the limelight embarassing me, as a citizen of the United States for being an idiot kissing up to Hussein. Gimmee a break.
Now, do you want me to tell you how I really feel?
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Originally posted by blindfaith
Now, do you want me to tell you how I really feel?
Please do. You have us all wondering where you really stand.
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You do--it's called a remote! Sorry, couldn't resist being a smart alek.
They make the TV stations a lot of money because those peoples' adoring fans watch and sop up all the advertising. That's why they get air time.
What no one is addressing is WHO makes these people celebrities? They don't occur in a vacuum. The public endorses them--by watching their movies and listening to their music. As citizens, they have the right to express their views on political issues whether educated or not.
You don't have to listen to them--or give them any credit. But you can't restrict their right to express themselves.
I hope you don't take my remote comment as an insult--it's not meant as such. There's nothing wrong with attacking arguments, but attacking the people who hold differing views (or even wrong views) is wrong.
--tibac
Edited because I just realized my last sentence made no sense--I should probably only post when I'm fully awake to avoid garbling my words like that.
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Well wildernesse already has stated and I will say again... Turn it off if you don't like it. The Television stations are allowed to put whoever the heck they want on tv. What you consider offensive really just plain does not matter. If you really don't like it, make your voice heard. Call the stations, get petitions signed. You have the right to do that, just as they have a right to put whoever they darn well please on their show.
As for the cussing used, that is another topic
My point to you is this. Who are you to say what they have to say is wrong.
*im glad everybody but me gets to speak their opinion without being insulted*
I found this quite entertaining! It is my point exactly. you can say whatever the heck you want cammie. as can those who get free time on-air due to their celebrity status.
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