Cavemen

[Agonaces of Susa]

I'm afraid they weren't cruising the galaxy in the chariots of the Gods.

The historical record says otherwise.

"Thou hast heard, O Raja, of the greatly powerful men of vast exertions, spoken of by Vyasa and the wise Narada; men born of great royal families, resplendent with worthy qualities, versed in the science of celestial arms, and in glory emblems of Indra; men who having conquered the world by justice and performed sacrifices with fit offerings (to the Brahmanas), obtained renown in this world and at last succumbed to the sway of time." -- Ugrasrava Sauti, Mahabharata, Book I: Adi Parva, Section I, 8th century B.C.

"Between the celestials [angels] and the Asuras [fallen angels], there happened, of yore, frequent encounters for the sovereignty of the three worlds with everything in them." -- Mahabharata, Book I: Adi Parva, Section LXXVI, 8th century B.C.

"... the Danavas assembled together and began to proudly conspire for the destruction of the three worlds. ... And all the Danavas, having arrived at this resolution for the destruction of the universe, became highly glad." -- Mahabharata, Book III: Vana Parva, Section CI, 8th century B.C.

"And he [Methuselah] was moreover with the angels of God these six jubilees of years, and they showed him everything which is on the earth and in the heavens, the rule of the sun, and he wrote down everything." -- Jubilees 4:21

 

[Redac]

I said in a past life. Maybe you should read before you post.

I haven't read the entire thread, and it's probably old news by now, but I thought I'd point out that Merrick was born in 1862. Which evil evolutionist past life was he being punished for, exactly?

 

[Nathan Poe]

The majority of Americans don't accept Darwinist fairy tales:

200 years ago, the majority of Americans didn't accept that blacks were people, and not chattel.

It continues to amuse me that someone who claims to know logic wouldn't understand a simple fallacy such as "appeal to popularity."

Keep the lulz coming, Agonaces, you are an entertaining little man.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

I haven't read the entire thread, and it's probably old news by now, but I thought I'd point out that Merrick was born in 1862. Which evil evolutionist past life was he being punished for, exactly?

"He [Anaximander] said ... that mankind was at the beginning very like another animal, to wit, a fish." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

200 years ago, the majority of Americans didn't accept that blacks were people, and not chattel.

Citation needed.

Today, the majority of evolutionists don't accept that our ancestors were people, and not viruses living on the backs of enchanted crystals.

 

[Nathan Poe]

"He [Anaximander] said ... that mankind was at the beginning very like another animal, to wit, a fish." -- Hippolytus, priest, 2nd century

So, Merrick was the reincarnation of Anaximander? That's your current schtick?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Citation needed.

It's called "slavery," Ag -- surely you're read a myth or two about that you must believe?

Today, the majority of evolutionists don't accept that our ancestors were people, and not viruses living on the backs of enchanted crystals.

Citation needed.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

It's called "slavery," Ag -- surely you're read a myth or two about that you must believe?

Um....white Christians were slaves for hundreds and thousands of years and Christians of all colors still are.

Does that mean Americans thought white Christians and Christians in general were chattel?

Citation needed.

YouTube - Expelled Movie - The Ruse

 

[Bushido216]

So, Merrick was the reincarnation of Anaximander? That's your current schtick?

I'd say that the Merrick story requires a citation before your statements do.

But I suppose the SLAVE TRADE could be considered a citation, of course.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Um....white Christians were slaves for hundreds and thousands of years and Christians of all colors still are.

Does that mean Americans thought white Christians and Christians in general were chattel?

This happened in America, did it?

I'm afraid the spacemen have been teaching you bad history.

YouTube - Expelled Movie - The Ruse

Honest citation needed.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

This happened in America, did it?

Globally, in fact.

They didn't teach you about white and Christian slaves in school? Why am I not surprised?

http://www.electricscotland.com/history/other/white_slavery.htm

Alexander Stewart was herded off the Gildart in July of 1747, bound with chains. Stewart was pushed onto the auction block in Wecomica, St Mary’s County, Maryland. Doctor Stewart and his brother William were attending the auction, aware of Alexander being on that slave ship coming from Liverpool England. Doctor Stewart and William were residents of Annapolis and brothers to David of Ballachalun in Montieth, Scotland. The two brothers paid nine pound six shillings sterling to Mr. Benedict Callvert of Annapolis for the purchase of Alexander. He was a slave. Alexander tells of the other 88 Scots sold into slavery that day in “THE LYON IN MOURNING” pages 242-243.

Jeremiah Howell was a lifetime-indentured servant by his uncle in Lewis County, Virginia in the early 1700’s. His son, Jeremiah, won his freedom by fighting in the Revolution. There were hundreds of thousands of Scots sold into slavery during Colonial America. White slavery to the American Colonies occurred as early as 1630 in Scotland.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Globally, in fact.

They didn't teach you about white and Christian slaves in school? Why am I not surprised?

Because they didn't teach it to you in school, either.

In any case, I do wish to thank you for that fascinating piece of trivia -- however, it does nothing to refute that "argument from popularity" is a fallacy.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Because they didn't teach it to you in school, either.

I was taught that Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Turks, Arabs, Brits, Americans, and Russians all had white slaves.

 

[BananaSlug]

I was taught that Egyptians, Babylonians, Greeks, Romans, Turks, Arabs, Brits, Americans, and Russians all had white slaves.

Slaves were from whatever city or tribe you defeated in battle, regardless of skin color or religion.

Um....white Christians were slaves for hundreds and thousands of years and Christians of all colors still are.

So how could "Christians" be slaves for hundreds and thousands of years when Christianity is only ~2,000 years old?

There is something I am confused about. Do you consider yourself a Christian? Your beliefs seem like a mix-match of different belief systems around the world. I'm sure you've read Erick von Daniken, Zechariah Stichen, and other authors of "ancient astronaut" books?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Slaves were from whatever city or tribe you defeated in battle, regardless of skin color or religion.

I agree. Some people seem to think only blacks can be slaves.

So how could "Christians" be slaves for hundreds and thousands of years when Christianity is only ~2,000 years old?

There is something I am confused about.

Christianity is over 2000 years old. Thus "thousands."

Do you consider yourself a Christian?

Yes.

Your beliefs seem like a mix-match of different belief systems around the world.

My religion is called Wisdom Christianity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wisdom_Christianity

I'm sure you've read Erick von Daniken, Zechariah Stichen, and other authors of "ancient astronaut" books?

Sure indeed.

 

[pgp_protector]

It doesn't have anything to do with this thread, but my great uncle and aunt claimed to have been abducted by aliens.

Another interesting thread.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

YouTube - Kubrick at 2001 opening

"We started in 1965. Early 1965. Well, I became interested in the idea the the universe was full of intelligent civilizations, which is the current scientific belief. Well the facts in the film only help you believe the story. Scientists know now that there are about 1 hundred billion stars in our galaxy and about one hundred billion galaxies in the visible universe. The point is that there are so many stars in the universe that the likelihood of life evolving around them, even if it were possibilities of one in a million, there would be hundrerds of millions of worlds in the universe." -- Stanley Kubrick, film maker, 1968

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

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"It must be a very dour and pessimistic astronomer indeed who seriously doubts that there must be countless numbers of intelligent civilizations scattered throughout the universe on other planets which are orbiting around other stars. An attitude which asserts that man is the only intelligent life form in the universe is intolerably arrogant today ... anyone who holds such an opinion today is, fortunately for those who like to see some progress in human conceptions, something of an intellectual freak equivalent to a believer in the Flat Earth Theory." -- Robert K. G. Temple, author, The Sirius Mystery, 1998

 

[Nathan Poe]

"It must be a very dour and pessimistic astronomer indeed who seriously doubts that there must be countless numbers of intelligent civilizations scattered throughout the universe on other planets which are orbiting around other stars. An attitude which asserts that man is the only intelligent life form in the universe is intolerably arrogant today ... anyone who holds such an opinion today is, fortunately for those who like to see some progress in human conceptions, something of an intellectual freak equivalent to a believer in the Flat Earth Theory." -- Robert K. G. Temple, author, The Sirius Mystery, 1998

I thought you were a flat Earth believer? Whoops, my bad -- expanding Earth, right?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

I thought you were a flat Earth believer? Whoops, my bad -- expanding Earth, right?

You don't know the difference between flat (what you believe in) and expanding (what I believe in) either?