Cavemen

[Agonaces of Susa]

And they're the ones who settled Atlantis and invented the Space Shuttle, right?

Anything you can imagine makes more sense than Neo-Darwinism...

"... Directed Panspermia, the theory that organisms were deliberately transmitted to the earth by intelligent beings on another planet." -- Francis H.C. Crick, molecular biologist, and Leslie E. Orgel, biologist, 1972

Crick, F.H.C., and Orgel, L.E., Directed Panspermia, Icarus, Volume 19, Pages 341-346, 1973

 

[Nathan Poe]

Anything you can imagine makes more sense than Neo-Darwinism...

of course, for that statement to have any meaning, you've have to know something about evolutionary theory.

But then the question is, is meaning your goal here?

 

[BananaSlug]

So what happened to all of the technology left behind by these super advanced civilizations? All we have found are bricks and stones. Where are the super advanced metals that are impervious to corrosion? Where are the towers, landing strips for space craft, and other technologies that we have today?

 

[keith99]

So what happened to all of the technology left behind by these super advanced civilizations? All we have found are bricks and stones. Where are the super advanced metals that are impervious to corrosion? Where are the towers, landing strips for space craft, and other technologies that we have today?

Being an advanced civilization everythign they made was perfectly biodegradeable, so finding no sign of the civilization serves as evidence of just how advanced they were!

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

So what happened to all of the technology left behind by these super advanced civilizations?

So what happened to the Santa Maria?

According to your logic, if Columbus ever existed and crossed the Atlantic you should be able to provide physical evidence for the Santa Maria. So let's see it.

Except we both know that's not how the real world works.

"As is well known in all sciences there have been many important events which have not left any trace." -- Hannes O.G. Alfvén, physicist, 1954

Time causes material objects to rust, disintegrate, and perish.

What happened to the Nazis?

"I mean, there were huge battles that took place in Europe during World War II. And you can go back to those places now. I mean, there should be, you know, just tons of equipment and stuff lying around. But it's not there. You can hardly find a thing. So I think, over millions of years, there can be a lot of destruction." -- Michael A. Cremo, author, August 2006

All we have found are bricks and stones.

"Weighing an estimated 1200 tons [the trilithon stone of Baalbek], it is sixty-nine feet by sixteen feet by thirteen feet ten inches, making it the single largest piece of stonework ever crafted in the world. Called the Hajar el Gouble, the Stone of the South, or the Hajar el Hibla, the Stone of the Pregnant Woman, it lays at a raised angle with the lowest part of its base still attached to the quarry rock as though it were almost ready to be cut free and transported to its presumed location next to the other stones of the Trilithon. Why these stones are such an enigma to contemporary scientists, both engineers and archaeologists alike, is that their method of quarrying, transportation and precision placement is beyond the technological ability of any known ancient or modern builders." -- Martin Gray, photographer, 2007

Where are the super advanced metals that are impervious to corrosion?

In Egypt, India, and South America.

Where are the towers, landing strips for space craft, and other technologies that we have today?

Nasca Peru.

 

[Nathan Poe]

What happened to the Nazis?

Nuremburg.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Nuremburg.

Ok that doesn't answer the questions.

Is the Santa Maria in Nuremberg too?

Where is all the equipment?

Where are all the vehicles?

Where are all the helmets?

 

[BananaSlug]

So what happened to the Santa Maria?

According to your logic, if Columbus ever existed and crossed the Atlantic you should be able to provide physical evidence for the Santa Maria. So let's see it.

It is called records.

The Santa María was originally named La Gallega ("The Galician"), because she was built in Pontevedra, Galicia. It seems the ship was known to her sailors as Marigalante, Spanish for "Gallant Mary". Bartolomé de Las Casas never used La Gallega, Marigalante or Santa María in his writings, preferring to use la Capitana or La Nao.
The Santa María had a single deck and three masts. She was the slowest of Columbus' vessels but performed well in the Atlantic crossing. She ran aground off the present-day site of Cap Haitien, Haiti on December 25, 1492, and was lost.[2] Realizing that the ship was beyond repair, Columbus ordered his men to strip the timbers from the ship. The timbers from the ship were later used to build Môle Saint-Nicolas, which was originally called La Navidad (Christmas) because the wreck occurred on Christmas Day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_María_(ship)

Except we both know that's not how the real world works.

"As is well known in all sciences there have been many important events which have not left any trace." -- Hannes O.G. Alfvén, physicist, 1954

If an event did not leave any traces, then it cannot be studied and therefore does not exist.

Time causes material objects to rust, disintegrate, and perish.

You would think an alien civilization capable of interstellar travel would be able to construct buildings that are impervious to oxidation.

"I mean, there were huge battles that took place in Europe during World War II. And you can go back to those places now. I mean, there should be, you know, just tons of equipment and stuff lying around. But it's not there. You can hardly find a thing. So I think, over millions of years, there can be a lot of destruction." -- Michael A. Cremo, author, August 2006

Yeah and you can go to just about any history museum and find tanks, weapons, clothing, pictures, even videos. All of the equipment that was laying around was either melted down or sent to historical museums. Try again.

"Weighing an estimated 1200 tons [the trilithon stone of Baalbek], it is sixty-nine feet by sixteen feet by thirteen feet ten inches, making it the single largest piece of stonework ever crafted in the world. Called the Hajar el Gouble, the Stone of the South, or the Hajar el Hibla, the Stone of the Pregnant Woman, it lays at a raised angle with the lowest part of its base still attached to the quarry rock as though it were almost ready to be cut free and transported to its presumed location next to the other stones of the Trilithon. Why these stones are such an enigma to contemporary scientists, both engineers and archaeologists alike, is that their method of quarrying, transportation and precision placement is beyond the technological ability of any known ancient or modern builders." -- Martin Gray, photographer, 2007

Are you stating aliens built with rock?

In Egypt, India, and South America.

Where?

Nasca Peru.

So advanced alien races capable of interstellar space travel landed on dirt tracks?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

It is called records.

If records are physical evidence then I have records and physical evidence of all the extraterrestrials, spaceships, and events in the Bible, Mahabharata, and Iliad.

"And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire. Also out of the midst thereof came the likeness of four living creatures. And this was their appearance; they had the likeness of a man." -- Ezekial 1:4-5

"And when I looked, behold the four wheels by the cherubims, one wheel by one cherub, and another wheel by another cherub: and the appearance of the wheels was as the colour of a beryl stone. And as for their appearances, they four had one likeness, as if a wheel had been in the midst of a wheel. When they went, they went upon their four sides; they turned not as they went, but to the place whither the head looked they followed it; they turned not as they went." -- Ezekial 10:9-11

"Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. And he said unto me, What seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth thereof ten cubits." -- Zechariah 5:1-2

f an event did not leave any traces, then it cannot be studied and therefore does not exist.

I agree that the Big Bang and evolution did not leave any trace, cannot be studied, and therefore do not exist.

However God and angels did leave traces, can be studied, and therefore exist.

All of the equipment that was laying around was either melted down

If it was melted down then it cannot be studied and therefore according to you it does not exist.

 

[BananaSlug]

If records are physical evidence then I have physical evidence of all the events in the Bible, Mahabharata, and Iliad.

I meant like book-keeping, record-keeping, etc.

I agree that the Big Bang and evolution did not leave any trace, cannot be studied, and therefore do not exist.

Are you proud of such ignorance?

However God and angels did leave traces, can be studied, and therefore exist.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

I meant like book-keeping, record-keeping, etc.

I know what you meant and I see the contradiction.

We have books and records confirming the existence of extraterrestrials and UFOs just like we have books and records confirming the existence of Christopher Columbus and the Santa Maria.

 

[Naraoia]

"I mean, there were huge battles that took place in Europe during World War II. And you can go back to those places now. I mean, there should be, you know, just tons of equipment and stuff lying around. But it's not there. You can hardly find a thing. So I think, over millions of years, there can be a lot of destruction." -- Michael A. Cremo, author, August 2006

This author has apparently never heard of the WWII bombs that still keep getting dug up in Budapest.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I know what you meant and I see the contradiction.

We have books and records confirming the existence of extraterrestrials and UFOs just like we have books and records confirming the existence of Christopher Columbus and the Santa Maria.

I see -- Could you list a few of those books and point out the "confirmations"?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

I see -- Could you list a few of those books and point out the "confirmations"?

Sure. One book you've never read that documents ancient spaceflight is called the Mahabharata: http://www.christianforums.com/t7446874/

Another book you've never read that documents ancient spaceflight is called the Holy Bible.

Another book you've never read that documents ancient spaceflight is called the Epic of Etana.

Also the Samarangana Sutradhara.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Sure. One book you've never read that documents ancient spaceflight is called the Mahabharata: http://www.christianforums.com/t7446874/

Another book you've never read that documents ancient spaceflight is called the Holy Bible.

Another book you've never read that documents ancient spaceflight is called the Epic of Etana.

Also the Samarangana Sutradhara.

I see -- these books "confirm" aliens, do they?

How about smurfs? Do they have smurfs in them, too?

Zombies! I love a good zombie story -- which books confirm them?

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

I see -- these books "confirm" aliens, do they?

They all corroborate the same reality.

How about smurfs? Do they have smurfs in them, too?

Sorry. You might find smurfs mentioned in an evolutionist textbook next to the missing link and aquatic apes. They have to deny the existence of hobbits so they might be substituting smurfs these days.

Zombies! I love a good zombie story -- which books confirm them?

Are zombies the missing link between cavemen and evolutionists?

 

[Nathan Poe]

They all corroborate the same reality.

Too bad it's not this reality.

 

[SkyWriting]

So what happened to all of the technology left behind by these super advanced civilizations? All we have found are bricks and stones. Where are the super advanced metals that are impervious to corrosion? Where are the towers, landing strips for space craft, and other technologies that we have today?

I was referring to a dramatically more advanced intelligence, maturity, and intellect level. Not so much the things that intrigue 10 year olds and are the focus of comic books.

 

[Nathan Poe]

I was referring to a dramatically more advanced intelligence, maturity, and intellect level. Not so much the things that intrigue 10 year olds and are the focus of comic books.

You do realize that ancient societies, like modern ones, had their fair share of people whose "intellignece, maturity, and intellect level" was nothing to be proud of.

As much as you would like to marvel at our hyperintelligent ancestors (and to be sure, they're far smarter than the average layman gives them credit for), I'm afraid they weren't cruising the galaxy in the chariots of the Gods.

 

[Agonaces of Susa]

Too bad it's not this reality.

The majority of Americans don't accept Darwinist fairy tales:

CNN - Poll: U.S. hiding knowledge of aliens - June 15, 1997

a new CNN/Time poll released Sunday shows that 80 percent of Americans think the government is hiding knowledge of the existence of extraterrestrial life forms.

FOXNews.com - 10/28/05 FOX Poll: More Believe in Heaven - Polls | AP Polls | Gallup Poll | Opinion Polls

The latest FOX News poll finds that more than nine in 10 Americans (91 percent) believe in God and almost as many believe in heaven (87 percent). In addition, 84 percent say they believe in miracles and 79 percent in angels.