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In the case of monks, nuns and priests - both Protestants and Catholics have examples of church members that choose poverty, and or service, and or celibacy in their service to God.
What is "questioned" in these cases is the institution that expels them if they should choose to later marry while still engaging in those same ministries.
I think it is certain that we have no Bible example in favor of that specific practice.
This is why i asked to have the details spelled out as to what exactly is being questioned.
The scandals that result from trying to bind them to obligations vs loss of livelihood when in fact they would be very happy to continue the same ministry only as a married person -- is by now self-evident.
there are married people who are connected with religious orders
they are called tertiaries or members of the third order
also, your implications in your last paragraph are extremely ignorant
Given that it's a post-biblical event (if it happened) why would you expect it to be in the bible?
Awesome! I pray the Lord will richly bless her with His truths.My daughter's friends were having their infants baptized and she wanted to have our little one know what faith she belonged to since many different religions attend daycare and preschool. It was decided to have her brought up immersed in books, songs and movies that are scripturally sound so she knows herself where her roots are. She's just 2 years old but already she's loving the stories....Noah's Ark and Joseph are her favorites
Catholic Teachings.... Backed by Scripture??
This is a list I comprised from the first 40 posts on this thread. I will work on another 40 posts when time allows...........
-Papal Supremacy
-Immaculate Conception
-Infallability of the Pope
-purgatory
-indulgencies
-the Marian dogmas (e.g. Assumption)
-auricular confession and penance
-transubstantiation
Not even close. And we are walking through the many errors and false practices in this thread, sit back, relax and enjoy.You have things backwards. Everything in the Bible is consistent with Church Teaching.
The bible is complete. It is not to be added to, remember the warnings in the book of Revelation?The bible was never intended to be a complete user's manual.
Like I said, sit back and relax, were going on a journey.If it was intended so, I will wait patiently for your proof.
Not even close. And we are walking through the many errors and false practices in this thread, sit back, relax and enjoy.
The bible is complete. It is not to be added to, remember the warnings in the book of Revelation?
Like I said, sit back and relax, were going on a journey.
Assumption of Mary
If Mary was 100 when she was assumed -- then... maybe post Bible.
But as it is - it appears to be without Bible support.
in Christ,
Bob
Yes.Yes. And not to be repetitious, but the most important point probably is that that verse doesn't make a case for Purgatory anyway. We've both pointed that out.
And that is why they tore themselves away as a Christian church and became apostate. And a fine example of all the cults.It could be seen in the way that "concretecamper" is recommending, though. That is to say, if it's not explicitly condemned in the Bible, you're free to believe whatever you can imagine.
That doesn't beat the guidance of God's word, if you ask me, but that is another POV that has some followers.
So Myself, Foghorn, and GoingByzantine kind of derailed a post. So I started this one. The goal is for GoingByzantine to back up the following using Scripture. Not talking about something a Pope said, or a Priest, but among the Scriptures.
I appreciate GoingByzantine for taking the challenge
Here is my list:
Nuns
Purgatory
Assumption of Mary
Priests living in Celibacy
Latin Mass in a English RC church (when looking at 1 Cor. 14:19)
*Christmas (since I believe Dec. 25th is a Catholic invention, and it was originally outlawed in the USA)
Sprinking
Infant Baptism
Venial and Mortal Sins
Matt 19:12
because some men are celibate from birth, while some are celibate because they have been made that way by others. Still others are celibate because they have made themselves that way for the sake of the kingdom from heaven. Let anyone accept this who can."
Suppose your the owner of this thread and calling all the shots.Dodge No. 2
Still no answer to a simple question...relaxing and waiting
+2.I don't think you need to explain. Mary certainly died before the last of the Bible books was written, but even if she did not, there's no reason that the Scriptures couldn't have made some mention of an event of the magnitude ofo the 'Assumption' whether or not it was a future event. The New Testament is simply full of references to events that were yet to happen.
I don't think you need to explain. Mary certainly died before the last of the Bible books was written, but even if she did not, there's no reason that the Scriptures couldn't have made some mention of an event of the magnitude ofo the 'Assumption' whether or not it was a future event. The New Testament is simply full of references to events that were yet to happen.
Yes.
And that is why they tore themselves away as a Christian church and became apostate. And a fine example of all the cults.
Not even close. And we are walking through the many errors and false practices in this thread, sit back, relax and enjoy.
The bible is complete. It is not to be added to, remember the warnings in the book of Revelation?
Like I said, sit back and relax, were going on a journey.
Oh no doubt!You would think that "Mary was the only sinless human apart from Christ and so like Christ she was bodily assumed into heaven" would have made it into that list.
in Christ,
Bob
You have things backwards. Everything in the Bible is consistent with Church Teaching. The bible was never intended to be a complete user's manual. If it was intended so, I will wait patiently for your proof.
Show me where in scripture it teaches we can add to it.Dodge No 3....geez, you cannot find anywhere in scripture that says we must believe only what is in scripture....relaxing and waiting.
Show me where in scripture it teaches we can add to it.
Your question is lacking and vague. Of course we can believe other things but it all comes back to God's word, there it is to be filtered through.
Ok, run off now.My question is specific...you are vague...and for good reason. Point proved. Good night and God Bless.
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