Catastrophic AGW Garbage

[Heissonear]

If it was real we would find observational evidence abounding. But such is missing, only claims.

Such is false climate science. These are fake societies.

Source:
Wild claim: Climate change impacts on endangered wildlife massively under reported

 

[SeventyOne]

I recall some years ago when they had some commercial with a polar bear floating off on some chunk of ice, making all the kids in school upset because the poor bear was supposedly floating off to die. One of my kids came home from school at that time all upset because we were all going to die like that bear.

Well, he was upset until I told him what the school would not. Bears swim. I homeschool now. They get to skip a lot of the indoctrination attempts.

 

[RealityCheck01]

If it was real we would find observational evidence abounding. But such is missing, only claims.

Ignorant statement, Heissonear. Any AGW catastrophes may happen in the future and are not happening now. What is happening now is some extinctions and lots of changes which are relatively minor.

The additional ignorance of linking to the climate change denial web site WUWT . This is an rant by Anthony Watts who displays abysmal ignorance (he is supposed to be an expert!) about climate science. Climate change is happening now ! We have to act now to prevent future extinctions from climate change.

Watts has the delusion that using models somehow makes a paper wrong (he has never heard of climate models?).
Climate Change Impacts on Endangered Wildlife Massively Under Reported
is about
Species’ traits influenced their response to recent climate change

 

[SkyWriting]

If it was real we would find observational evidence abounding. But such is missing, only claims.

Such is false climate science. These are fake societies.

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Wild claim: Climate change impacts on endangered wildlife massively under reported

It is getting warmer. Life has always adjusted to it.

 

[RealityCheck01]

I recall some years ago when they had some commercial with a polar bear floating off on some chunk of ice, making all the kids in school upset because the poor bear was supposedly floating off to die....

Polar bears swim but not forever. A cause of the deaths of cubs is their inability to swim long distances.
The main issue with global warming is that polar bears hunt on ice. The reduction of pack ice means less food.
Another issue is that ice packs provide rest when looking for new hunting grounds. So a mother bear with cubs starving on an island will try to swim to another but may lose a cub.
The commercial is correct - that bear will die unless the chunk of ice gets close to somewhere it can swim to.

 

[RealityCheck01]

It is getting warmer. Life has always adjusted to it.

Life has always died because of past events of increasing warmth (and cold) and the survivors have adjusted.
The problem is that the current global warming is faster then any other warming that we know about. Adaption is improbable. Migration is limited. That is why some future scenarios are described as "catastrophic". If you are content with polar bears, etc. vanishing then do not worry about global warming. Ditto for various Pacific nations, parts of Bangladesh and other low lying areas that may be flooded as seas rise.

 

[SeventyOne]

Polar bears swim but not forever. A cause of the deaths of cubs is their inability to swim long distances.
The main issue with global warming is that polar bears hunt on ice. The reduction of pack ice means less food.
Another issue is that ice packs provide rest when looking for new hunting grounds. So a mother bear with cubs starving on an island will try to swim to another but may lose a cub.
The commercial is correct - that bear will die unless the chunk of ice gets close to somewhere it can swim to.

The commercial was designed to scare children. It was indoctrination in the place of substance.

 

[essentialsaltes]

There are none so blind as those that will not see.

Seriously, we have shown Heissonear observational evidence for years.

 

[RickG]

If it was real we would find observational evidence abounding. But such is missing, only claims.mate change impacts on endangered wildlife massively under reported

I think that it is very important to understand the difference between actual scientific research and advocate groups.

 

[HitchSlap]

It is getting warmer. Life has always adjusted to it.

Sure, right after 99% of it dies.
And guess which species are the "softest" of them all?

 

[HitchSlap]

I recall some years ago when they had some commercial with a polar bear floating off on some chunk of ice, making all the kids in school upset because the poor bear was supposedly floating off to die. One of my kids came home from school at that time all upset because we were all going to die like that bear.

Well, he was upset until I told him what the school would not. Bears swim. I homeschool now. They get to skip a lot of the indoctrination attempts.

Of course, I almost forgot, but humans can swim too. GTK!

 

[RealityCheck01]

The commercial was designed to scare children.

Can you can read the minds of commercial makers ?
Or even:
Do you want to ban anti-smoking commercials because you think that they are "designed to scare children"?
Safe driving commercials often have car crashes - "designed to scare children"?
And why only commercials - is the news "designed to scare children"?

What little we know about that commercial suggests that it was designed to raise awareness of the danger of global warming for at least polar bears in people who can do something about it - adults. It would be fairly useless to target children.

We know that it presented valid evidence based on science. Global warming will endanger polar bears. Some people are "going to die like that bear" (but not on ice bergs!) since one predication is more extreme weather events.

A danger of home schooling is that it can teach children falsehoods if you have a biased supplier of educational material. Make sure that you do not.

 

[Heissonear]

Life has always died because of past events of increasing warmth (and cold) and the survivors have adjusted.
The problem is that the current global warming is faster then any other warming that we know about. Adaption is improbable. Migration is limited. That is why some future scenarios are described as "catastrophic". If you are content with polar bears, etc. vanishing then do not worry about global warming. Ditto for various Pacific nations, parts of Bangladesh and other low lying areas that may be flooded as seas rise.

Too many what ifs.

The Earth is not supporting the "Catastrophic" scenario.

That is Good News.

The Anthropologic CO2 "warming signal" cannot even be discerned from the natural variability components noise.

The Climate Boyz are in desperate times pushing the propaganda, when their scientific hypotheses is broke and they are not facing up to it.

"Please send money"

"Our country pledges"

What a fiasco.

 

[RealityCheck01]

The Earth is not supporting the "Catastrophic" scenario. ...

Close to a lie about the topic of this thread, Heissonear.
Underreporting of the effects of global warming on endangered species would change the estimates of further impact of global warming upward - more "catastrophic" .

Ignorance: The anthropologic CO2 warming signal and natural variation signal can be and are separated in climate science papers.
Conspiracy theory paranoia about "propaganda".
A lie: AGW is well validated science as anyone who can Google can find out.

Ignorance seems a theme in your climate threads, e.g.
2 September 2016 Heissonear: A lie about "CAGW" unraveling at the scientific level.
2 September 2016 Heissonear: A lie about "CAGW" unraveling at the political level.
2 September 2016 Heissonear: A lie about "CAGW" unraveling at the judicial level.
2 September 2016 Heissonear: Looks like two lies about a "former Chief of NASA as Chief Alarmist"
14 September 2016 Heissonear: It is a lie that The New York Times is reporting garbage about climate when studies say the opposite.
14 September 2016 Heissonear: The ignorance of citing a climate change denier (Eric Worrall) stating "balance" idiocy!
14 September 2016 Heissonear: The demand to "do a background check on them" and citing the deluded and ignorant Leonid Goldstein as a background check reveals!
20 September 2016 Heissonear: "No, not good recording station locations, except for graphed Circus data" is a lie (from WUWT?)
4 October 2016 Heissonear: Ignorant assertion that weather station temperature readings are unreliable.
4 October 2016 Heissonear: Ignorance about a Hansen quote which was about power station coal, not general historical use of coal.
4 October 2016 Heissonear: Cannot recognize that Don J. Easterbrook basically lies in a 2008 web page.
4 October 2016 Heissonear: Abysmal ignorance - 4940 BP is not today, a place in Canada is not the entire world !
1 November 2016 Heissonear: The Earth in recent past showed many cold periods too!

 

[HitchSlap]

He certainly comes across as a misinformant.

Close to a lie about the topic of this thread, Heissonear.
Underreporting of the effects of global warming on endangered species would change the estimates of further impact of global warming upward - more "catastrophic" .

A lie: The anthropologic CO2 warming signal and natural variation signal can be and are separated in climate science papers.
Conspiracy theory paranoia about "propaganda".
A lie: AGW is well validated science.

 

[Radrook]

If it was real we would find observational evidence abounding. But such is missing, only claims.

Such is false climate science. These are fake societies.

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Source:
Wild claim: Climate change impacts on endangered wildlife massively under reported

They should have photographed a gorilla with a worried look on its face. This one looks as if he's about to burst out chuckling at the whole idea.

 

[Radrook]

I recall some years ago when they had some commercial with a polar bear floating off on some chunk of ice, making all the kids in school upset because the poor bear was supposedly floating off to die. One of my kids came home from school at that time all upset because we were all going to die like that bear.

Well, he was upset until I told him what the school would not. Bears swim. I homeschool now. They get to skip a lot of the indoctrination attempts.

How did the kid get the idea that everyone, including himself, was going to die floating on some iceberg?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

How did the kid get the idea that everyone, including himself, was going to die floating on some iceberg?

Kids are not that all that bright.

 

[SeventyOne]

How did the kid get the idea that everyone, including himself, was going to die floating on some iceberg?

He said that's what the teacher had told him during some school assembly for all the kids in the cafeteria where they showed the commercial during a talk where they also implied global warming will kill everyone if we don't stop driving cars. He begged me to stop driving too.

Granted, this was my oldest and he was maybe 9 or 10 at the time, but it was used as part of a school-sanctioned brainwashing event. You know, one of those things the school just does without informing the parents first. That might have actually been the point where we seriously started considering homeschooling. We were seriously peeved that evening when he came home upset and crying.

 

[SeventyOne]

Can you can read the minds of commercial makers ?
Or even:
Do you want to ban anti-smoking commercials because you think that they are "designed to scare children"?
Safe driving commercials often have car crashes - "designed to scare children"?
And why only commercials - is the news "designed to scare children"?

What little we know about that commercial suggests that it was designed to raise awareness of the danger of global warming for at least polar bears in people who can do something about it - adults. It would be fairly useless to target children.

We know that it presented valid evidence based on science. Global warming will endanger polar bears. Some people are "going to die like that bear" (but not on ice bergs!) since one predication is more extreme weather events.

A danger of home schooling is that it can teach children falsehoods if you have a biased supplier of educational material. Make sure that you do not.

You might need a reality check of your own. You don't know that it's valid at all. All you know is that you are told it is valid. You can choose to trust the source or not trust the source, but you take the info on faith, because you don't actually know yourself. You sound like these people who parrot 'evolution is real, because science'. As if they are any authority on the matter. They aren't. They just simply choose to put faith in the wrong people.

Also, please don't lecture me on homeschooling. Do you seriously think the suppliers of educational materials to public schools are completely unbiased? That might be another reality check for you.