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Cannabis/Marijuana as the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil?My theory is that Marijuana was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
Plant or Tree, does it really matter on that? It is however a fruit. definition of fruit: the sweet and fleshy product of a tree or other plant that contains seed and can be eaten as food.
Typically a fruit contains the seed on the inside of the fruit itself. That is why a Tomato as well as an Avocado is considered a fruit.
In Genesis Chapter 2:17 it states: but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
"Tree of knowledge of good and evil."
Now, I am 53 years old and as with myself. I have smoked weed ever since around 13 years old and was a chronic user from around 16 to my mid 30's. I stopped smoking weed in 1997 when I was 33.
From the thousands of people I meet that were also pot heads. I know that most people would tell you that it expands your mind. Your thoughts go into deep detail on things. Why else to we call it spacing off. Our minds go off into a deep thought. But of course it also affects us in a way that we forget things a lot. Especially from being a chronic user.
However, there is some things that I know that go along with the community of weed fans. I can't really think of many people at all that smokes weed, even still as of today that you will notice that most of their conversations are about things that are immoral, lustful, selfish, dishonestly, spiteful and act like the know more than others. I read on one post here where they said that people on weed are Egocentric. That is only part of it.
As for me, I was one of the real quiet ones in the groups when I got together with other people to get high. Why, because I like to observe others and listen to what they say and how they behave when we all get together to party and such.
One thing I've always noticed is most immoral behavior, people talking about sex a lot or talking about a girls body and such. It seems to me that this behavior is more around people that either do drugs, smoke weed or drink alcohol. Of course with Alcohol they are more forward and aggressive since they lack more self control. However with Weed, it is more like sneaky, subtle and basically perverted and about self gratification.
Also in the bible God says we are to have a clear mind. In other words not to be influenced by no mind altering drugs. IF anyone thinks that smoking weed is not mind altering then they are either in denial or just too stoned to even realize it or understand it.
To be a true Christian are to not only be able to comprehend the word. But to hold it close to our hearts. To learn to obey god and not lust, lie, cheat, kill, steal, gossip, hate and etc. However, how are you going to ever remember and also for the holy ghost to remind you what Gods words are if you can't remember what you read or even hear the holy ghost speak to your heart if you are not of a clear mind?
Being a born again Christian and still going around others that smoke weed, especially now with most people being so open about it since it is practically legal here in AZ. All I can say from being 7 years in following Christ and learning to obey God and do his will of being a good Christian. Is that I can see now how most people are blind and lost to what it is to obey God. Lust and selfish desires are so out of control in our society today most people could not tell you what the difference is between Sex and Love. It seems it is common thought that Love is Sex when in fact Love has nothing really to do with Sex.
If anything Marijuana is suppressing and numbing the minds of our community as well as twisting their logic and moral compass that they people seem to not even know the difference between good and evil.
Just like any other mind altering drug. It will make you feel one way for a while. Then it turns on you. Just like most other drugs out there. No matter what we convince ourselves that it is a cure. It is all but a lie and an excuse for people to get what they want, what they desire and what they feel makes their lives more easy to cope with rather than turning to God for direction.
To me marijuana becoming legal and it is spreading across this nation like a wildfire. Immoral behavior will become more and more of a norm and more desensitized to what is moral.
Sometimes I truly believe that Marijuana is the Forbidden fruit. I can't think of any other fruit on this planet that would come closer to what the forbidden fruit is.
If Marijuana is not the forbidden fruit. It is at least another drug that desensitizes a person and sands down their moral compass from strong desires that are selfish and self-gratifying. This only takes us further away from being like Christ. In turn it will lead to eternal death.
Genesis 1:29
You can't eat marijuana. Marijuana isn't fruit. Genesis 3:3 "But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die". It was fruit and not the herb marijuana. What really matters is God commanded us not to do something and we did it and now we are all cursed. The only thing we can do is obey God, ask for forgiveness, call on Jesus Christ for salvation. Revelation 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city." Let's focus on preaching repentance and remission of sin in Jesus Christ's name. Amen.
Props to Starcrystal for the original post from 2004 as read below:
""It was brought up on another thread that an "Apple" was the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good & evil. I have no idea why the forbidden fruit gets portrayed as an Apple so often. Here's my belief and why:
My theory is that Marijuana was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I used to smoke it regularly as a teenager, and I remember clearly that often after I smoked I would feel guilty about "sin" although I didn't even know what sin was. Its like I got this insight into myself, and I'd understand that smoking cigarettes was wrong, drinking was wrong, and stealing liqour from my families liquor cabinets was wrong. I realized I had been behaving badly towards my family, and even that smoking pot itself was wrong.
"And ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil....a tree to be desired to make one wise." ~ Genesis 3:5& 6
Notice the scripture says a tree to BE DESIRED. Even though I knew smoking pot was wrong from the effects it gave me, the first thing I did when I was no longer high was to go DESIRE MORE! What a deception!
I often stayed inside, or went to places alone in the woods when i was under the effects of marijuana. I seemed to be hiding my "shame" from society, yet at the same time I realized God was watching and I couldn't hide from him! (Now at this time I had NO BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, yet these things were happening!) By smoking pot I seemed to have a comprehension of "good and evil" I also felt shame and wanted to hide....
"Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord amongst the trees of the garden..." ~ Genesis 3:8
Scripture says that when they partook of the fruit that "The eyes of both of them were openned..." ~ Genesis 3:7
We know that medically, marijuana can be used to help the eyes. It is used especially for glaucoma patients. Once in Florida I was camping in the jungle-like forest. I ran into a branch at night and it scratched my eye. My vision was blurred and my eye watered continually. A friend gave me a joint and after one hit my vision cleared and came into focus, just like focussing the lense on a camera or binoculars! My eye quit watering for about an hour. So I have seen the physical as well as mental & spiritual "Opening of the eyes."
Eve saw the tree was good for food and pleasant to the sight. At first people might think this couldn't be marijuana because of the food aspect. Hemp seeds are edible and contain oils that are very healthy for you. It IS good for food! The seed itself has negligible amounts of THC and will not alter ones mind, even in large amounts. But the seed is in the flower, and the flower is chock full of THC. This is what gets a person high. Anyone eating the flowery buds of a marijuana plant will experience a high, and all that goes along with it.
For these reasons I have felt for several years that marijuana is probably the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
#1) The high produced by it often causes you to know good and evil.
#2) It causes "shame" and people often get "paranoid" while high, and want to hide.
#3) It can "open the eyes" phyisically, as well as menatlly/spiritually.
#4) Its seeds and seed oils are good for food.
#5) The plant is pleasant to the sight.
#6) It causes itself "To be desired to make one wise" (Or so the smoker thinks...)
Hence, I believe Marijuana fits the criteria for the tree in Genesis 3, and is a far better candidate than Apples. This is also a good incentive NOT to start smoking pot!""
...As I couldn't add to the original thread I thought I'd start a new one. Especially in todays' much morphed society, I believe Starcrystal was spot on in his interpretations back in 2004.
To me it is no coincidence that Cannabis use has been pushed deeper into the roots of society as we have experienced the onset of the Antichrist Kingdom.
What would be more infuriating to God than to have this precious and forbidden tree casually consumed by all. Particularly whilst they are glued to a smartphone etc.
Satan knows his time is limited and is running amok.
Be warned against its use, it will open your spiritual eye to a level where you can really and truly appreciate that ignorance is bliss. Interestingly it is my experience that those most prominently affected by it are Christians. In ways both good and evil.
I had forsaken all my Christian roots from childhood until I began smoking Cannabis as a teenager, when an appreciation for spirituality over materialism was reborn. I'd "learnt" on some primal level that many of the Christian sentiments are detrimental to success in today's cut-throat society, until Cannabis raised questions and complications within my own spirit that allowed me to cut through the Matrix.
I think perhaps the world as God intended it in Eden has become so lost and vacant through Satan's increasing energy that the same plant as mentioned in Genesis may be what was referred to in Revelations 22:2 as the herb that "was for the healing of the nations".
As people become less human, Cannabis simply reminds them that they have an eternal soul, as opposed to the effect it had on Adam and Eve consuming it in Genesis when it made them like Gods.
Who knows. Just a thought. But I've never consumed the "Fruit" of any other "Tree" and felt a heightened thirst for the spiritual/theological and a persistent reminder of good and evil from my conscience (aka the voice of the Holy Ghost within us)
Let's get real. The Illuminati are forcing all types of evil and things Anti-Christ on todays' youth and spitting in the face of God. And one persistent theme amongst that is Cannabis use. Made to seem cool etc when really is eventually derails lives from Gods original plan.
I smoked for years, recently having to quit after those trippy daydreams you have whilst high became normality in every waking moment. (Lots of the prophets in the Bible experienced such visions, but through the hand of God/Holy Spirit as opposed to Farmakeia)
The stuff nowadays is a different plant, imbalanced of the original chemical compilation as would be found occurring in a natural garden. As if one was drinking a few pints of beer, and it slowly morphed into Tequila, but slowly enough that you never really noticed the change.
Would you drink a pint of Tequila?
It's so glaringly obvious yet hidden in plain sight. Satan's greatest trick was to convince so many in the world that he didn't exist. What better way to corrupt and distort things more than making one of only two trees explicitly denied us by God freely acceptable and available to all. Masses sitting high in a lethargic cloud of contentment while he rolls his hideous kingdom into play.
All part of the plan before the return of Christ in all his glory.
God Bless
There is zero Biblical evidence that the fruit of the tree was marijuana. There's just as much evidence that it was an apple, ie none. My suspicion is that the fruit is depicted as an apple because red historically was a color associated with poison and danger. Being that apples are well know tree fruits, it's not terribly surprising that people dedicated apples as the fruit of the tree. In reality we have zero evidence that the fruit was an apple or even that it was red.Props to Starcrystal for the original post from 2004 as read below:
""It was brought up on another thread that an "Apple" was the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good & evil. I have no idea why the forbidden fruit gets portrayed as an Apple so often. Here's my belief and why:
My theory is that Marijuana was the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
I used to smoke it regularly as a teenager, and I remember clearly that often after I smoked I would feel guilty about "sin" although I didn't even know what sin was. Its like I got this insight into myself, and I'd understand that smoking cigarettes was wrong, drinking was wrong, and stealing liqour from my families liquor cabinets was wrong. I realized I had been behaving badly towards my family, and even that smoking pot itself was wrong.
"And ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil....a tree to be desired to make one wise." ~ Genesis 3:5& 6
Notice the scripture says a tree to BE DESIRED. Even though I knew smoking pot was wrong from the effects it gave me, the first thing I did when I was no longer high was to go DESIRE MORE! What a deception!
I often stayed inside, or went to places alone in the woods when i was under the effects of marijuana. I seemed to be hiding my "shame" from society, yet at the same time I realized God was watching and I couldn't hide from him! (Now at this time I had NO BIBLICAL KNOWLEDGE OF GOD, yet these things were happening!) By smoking pot I seemed to have a comprehension of "good and evil" I also felt shame and wanted to hide....
"Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord amongst the trees of the garden..." ~ Genesis 3:8
Scripture says that when they partook of the fruit that "The eyes of both of them were openned..." ~ Genesis 3:7
We know that medically, marijuana can be used to help the eyes. It is used especially for glaucoma patients. Once in Florida I was camping in the jungle-like forest. I ran into a branch at night and it scratched my eye. My vision was blurred and my eye watered continually. A friend gave me a joint and after one hit my vision cleared and came into focus, just like focussing the lense on a camera or binoculars! My eye quit watering for about an hour. So I have seen the physical as well as mental & spiritual "Opening of the eyes."
Eve saw the tree was good for food and pleasant to the sight. At first people might think this couldn't be marijuana because of the food aspect. Hemp seeds are edible and contain oils that are very healthy for you. It IS good for food! The seed itself has negligible amounts of THC and will not alter ones mind, even in large amounts. But the seed is in the flower, and the flower is chock full of THC. This is what gets a person high. Anyone eating the flowery buds of a marijuana plant will experience a high, and all that goes along with it.
For these reasons I have felt for several years that marijuana is probably the tree of knowledge of good and evil.
#1) The high produced by it often causes you to know good and evil.
#2) It causes "shame" and people often get "paranoid" while high, and want to hide.
#3) It can "open the eyes" phyisically, as well as menatlly/spiritually.
#4) Its seeds and seed oils are good for food.
#5) The plant is pleasant to the sight.
#6) It causes itself "To be desired to make one wise" (Or so the smoker thinks...)
Hence, I believe Marijuana fits the criteria for the tree in Genesis 3, and is a far better candidate than Apples. This is also a good incentive NOT to start smoking pot!""
...As I couldn't add to the original thread I thought I'd start a new one. Especially in todays' much morphed society, I believe Starcrystal was spot on in his interpretations back in 2004.
To me it is no coincidence that Cannabis use has been pushed deeper into the roots of society as we have experienced the onset of the Antichrist Kingdom.
What would be more infuriating to God than to have this precious and forbidden tree casually consumed by all. Particularly whilst they are glued to a smartphone etc.
Satan knows his time is limited and is running amok.
Be warned against its use, it will open your spiritual eye to a level where you can really and truly appreciate that ignorance is bliss. Interestingly it is my experience that those most prominently affected by it are Christians. In ways both good and evil.
I had forsaken all my Christian roots from childhood until I began smoking Cannabis as a teenager, when an appreciation for spirituality over materialism was reborn. I'd "learnt" on some primal level that many of the Christian sentiments are detrimental to success in today's cut-throat society, until Cannabis raised questions and complications within my own spirit that allowed me to cut through the Matrix.
I think perhaps the world as God intended it in Eden has become so lost and vacant through Satan's increasing energy that the same plant as mentioned in Genesis may be what was referred to in Revelations 22:2 as the herb that "was for the healing of the nations".
As people become less human, Cannabis simply reminds them that they have an eternal soul, as opposed to the effect it had on Adam and Eve consuming it in Genesis when it made them like Gods.
Who knows. Just a thought. But I've never consumed the "Fruit" of any other "Tree" and felt a heightened thirst for the spiritual/theological and a persistent reminder of good and evil from my conscience (aka the voice of the Holy Ghost within us)
Let's get real. The Illuminati are forcing all types of evil and things Anti-Christ on todays' youth and spitting in the face of God. And one persistent theme amongst that is Cannabis use. Made to seem cool etc when really is eventually derails lives from Gods original plan.
I smoked for years, recently having to quit after those trippy daydreams you have whilst high became normality in every waking moment. (Lots of the prophets in the Bible experienced such visions, but through the hand of God/Holy Spirit as opposed to Farmakeia)
The stuff nowadays is a different plant, imbalanced of the original chemical compilation as would be found occurring in a natural garden. As if one was drinking a few pints of beer, and it slowly morphed into Tequila, but slowly enough that you never really noticed the change.
Would you drink a pint of Tequila?
It's so glaringly obvious yet hidden in plain sight. Satan's greatest trick was to convince so many in the world that he didn't exist. What better way to corrupt and distort things more than making one of only two trees explicitly denied us by God freely acceptable and available to all. Masses sitting high in a lethargic cloud of contentment while he rolls his hideous kingdom into play.
All part of the plan before the return of Christ in all his glory.
God Bless
Cannabis/Marijuana as the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil?
Nonsense. Cannabis disrupts normal brain functioning. It is useless in understanding anything about the nature of reality. All it illustrates is what it feels like to have a brain disfunctioning. Also, it can trigger psychological disorders and other undesirable side-effects.
Maybe it has medical benefits but I feel sorry for people who must resort to THC at anything other than micro-dosage.
Marijuana would be the tree of egocentrism, confusion and sleep.
For the record, i have smoked a Ferrari's worth of the stuff, so i can tell...