Can You See Like God?

[Question.Everything]

If I asked you, "Can you understand everything the way God does?"...the answer would have to be no (Bible). The claim here is that a being exists outside of human reason (infinite). This being has the power to create matter.

If it's possible for a being like this to exist, why is it not just as possible (even more possible) for other supernatural beings to exist? What if all of the world religions did have their actual God(s)? Maybe they're all competing for humans while other supernatural gods exist and we don't even know they're there (outside of human reason)? How can you prove that a God didn't talk to Muhammad?

I understand it's pretty crazy to think about, but if you believe in the supernatural and believe in basic human history...it's entirely possible. I don't think that's what reality is, but it's more likely than something as specific as Christianity.

Is there a hole in this reasoning? Is this all on 100% faith that when God says he is the only God, he isn't lying to you? If we are created in the image of God and we have lied (sinned) from birth...how can you disprove that God doesn't lie to people? What if we are to Gods like animals are to us? They don't comprehend things the way we do, and we completely control them (they don't really have an idea). Maybe there's a group of supernatural Gods and above them is an even more advanced supernatural being that can create Gods, and since Gods are infinite, it just scales to infinity.

If that's the case, there's really not much for us to worry about but ourselves. Existence in general is infinite which means it might as well be still and complete...much more joy in life comes from living in the moment, enjoying yourself, and being a nice person to others. Do things for the sake of human prosperity, and always try to be happy. Hope for the best after death.


in be4 "now tell me what you really think"

 

[Hakan101]

If I asked you, "Can you understand everything the way God does?"...the answer would have to be no (Bible). The claim here is that a being exists outside of human reason (infinite). This being has the power to create matter.

If it's possible for a being like this to exist, why is it not just as possible (even more possible) for other supernatural beings to exist? What if all of the world religions did have their actual God(s)? Maybe they're all competing for humans while other supernatural gods exist and we don't even know they're there (outside of human reason)? How can you prove that a God didn't talk to Muhammad?

I understand it's pretty crazy to think about, but if you believe in the supernatural and believe in basic human history...it's entirely possible. I don't think that's what reality is, but it's more likely than something as specific as Christianity.

Is there a hole in this reasoning? Is this all on 100% faith that when God says he is the only God, he isn't lying to you? If we are created in the image of God and we have lied (sinned) from birth...how can you disprove that God doesn't lie to people? What if we are to Gods like animals are to us? They don't comprehend things the way we do, and we completely control them (they don't really have an idea). Maybe there's a group of supernatural Gods and above them is an even more advanced supernatural being that can create Gods, and since Gods are infinite, it just scales to infinity.

If that's the case, there's really not much for us to worry about but ourselves. Existence in general is infinite which means it might as well be still and complete...much more joy in life comes from living in the moment, enjoying yourself, and being a nice person to others. Do things for the sake of human prosperity, and always try to be happy. Hope for the best after death.

in be4 "now tell me what you really think"

Fun concept, but it is only worth, as they say, "entertaining the possibility." Besides the fact that different religions contradict each other, there's no evidence of any kind to suggest such a thing.

 

[drich0150]

If I asked you, "Can you understand everything the way God does?"...the answer would have to be no (Bible). The claim here is that a being exists outside of human reason (infinite). This being has the power to create matter.

If it's possible for a being like this to exist, why is it not just as possible (even more possible) for other supernatural beings to exist? What if all of the world religions did have their actual God(s)? Maybe they're all competing for humans while other supernatural gods exist and we don't even know they're there (outside of human reason)? How can you prove that a God didn't talk to Muhammad?

I understand it's pretty crazy to think about, but if you believe in the supernatural and believe in basic human history...it's entirely possible. I don't think that's what reality is, but it's more likely than something as specific as Christianity.

Is there a hole in this reasoning? Is this all on 100% faith that when God says he is the only God, he isn't lying to you? If we are created in the image of God and we have lied (sinned) from birth...how can you disprove that God doesn't lie to people? What if we are to Gods like animals are to us? They don't comprehend things the way we do, and we completely control them (they don't really have an idea). Maybe there's a group of supernatural Gods and above them is an even more advanced supernatural being that can create Gods, and since Gods are infinite, it just scales to infinity.

If that's the case, there's really not much for us to worry about but ourselves. Existence in general is infinite which means it might as well be still and complete...much more joy in life comes from living in the moment, enjoying yourself, and being a nice person to others. Do things for the sake of human prosperity, and always try to be happy. Hope for the best after death.


in be4 "now tell me what you really think"

YIKES!!! You guys are being groomed, and don't even know it. There will come one (soon) who will reinforce all of these flavor notes for you, and compile all of the world religions into a neat little package that you are all ready to accept.

Revelations talks about the anti christ being able to unite the world under one world religion (believer and unbeliever alike) how do you think this will be possible?

 

[drich0150]

Against my better judgement Here is what my thoughts are on your "question."
http://www.christianforums.com/t7603333/

 

[ebia]

If I asked you, "Can you understand everything the way God does?"...the answer would have to be no (Bible). The claim here is that a being exists outside of human reason (infinite). This being has the power to create matter.

If it's possible for a being like this to exist, why is it not just as possible (even more possible) for other supernatural beings to exist? What if all of the world religions did have their actual God(s)?

strictly speaking, the Judeo/Christian scriptures don't rule out the possibility of other "gods". What they claim is that there is one and only one person, YHWH, who is really deserving of that title - everything else is pales beside him.

That claim is incompatible with most other religions' claims. Either YHWH is unique in that way, or he is not. If the latter then Judaism and Christianity are completely wrong all their other core claims as well.

Judaism and Islam are slightly different case. Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the same God. And on many things we agree about his nature (eg his uniqueness). On other things we make mutually incompatible claims about his nature - we cannot all be completely right.

Is there a hole in this reasoning? Is this all on 100% faith that when God says he is the only God, he isn't lying to you?

if he's not the ultimate and unique creator none of the rest of the Judeo/Christian story of YHWH's working in the world makes any sense - particularly Jesus incarnation, death and resurrection.

In the end you can't prove that one's entire life and experience is not an illusion. But one cannot operate except by assuming it is not. And you trust, whether it's God or any other person, on the basis of whether the person has seemed trustwothy on past experience, comes recommended by sources you already trust, and so on.

Ultimately a hermeneutic of suspicion carried to the extreme is unlivable. In no other field would one even consider it.

 

[razeontherock]

If it's possible for a being like this to exist, why is it not just as possible (even more possible) for other supernatural beings to exist?

It is, and they do. The term for this is henotheism, and the Judeo-Christian traditions have always been of this flavor rather than strict monotheism. It's just that we only worship 1 of these Beings.

What if all of the world religions did have their actual God(s)?

I will point out to you that it is rare for any religion to worship a different god from Christianity. You may be distracted by the different forms of worship and such, which mainly just reflects difference in culture; but in no way does that indicate a different god.

Do things for the sake of human prosperity, and always try to be happy.

IOW, eat drink and merry. No, that's not a good philosophy, long term. Can't let ya slide w/o a warning, that G-d will Judge us, in righteousness.