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How many wives did Solomon have?It doesn't say any sex other than with your one wife.... someone added that.
There are topical aids like Zestra that might be of interest or you might go to a sex therapist. Its not healthy for you, in my opinion, to just try to do something like sex out of a sense of duty... and to be honest, as a husband, it would turn me off and I'd walk away. I would view it as my duty as a wife to assist my husband in learning to be a good lover, which includes many things, but especially that he assist the wife in climaxing as many times as she wants to until she's satisfied. Obviously, it should already be in his mind to love his wife in this way and not seek his own pleasure at the expense of her. All of this is pretty commonplace knowledge now, so I don't know why I'm talking about it. I'll add this: I would be concerned if I was engaged to a girl who told me that she never masturbated to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. See christiannymphos.org if interested in Christian women who pursue sexual happiness.
I checked in TDNT, which is a much more detailed lexicon than Strong's (and more up to date). What they say is that it typically means an illicit desire, but there are also examples when it's a normal desire. The older Greek meaning is neutral but from the time of Plato it came to have a negative connotation. Unfortunately you have to tell from the context. All interpreters that I've seen believe that in Mat 5:28 the reference is to improper desire. Luke 22:15 is an example of a normal desire.
I checked in TDNT, which is a much more detailed lexicon than Strong's (and more up to date). What they say is that it typically means an illicit desire, but there are also examples when it's a normal desire. The older Greek meaning is neutral but from the time of Plato it came to have a negative connotation. Unfortunately you have to tell from the context. All interpreters that I've seen believe that in Mat 5:28 the reference is to improper desire. Luke 22:15 is an example of a normal desire.
The Bible doesn't directly deal with smoking.Amen Brother
There are topical aids like Zestra that might be of interest or you might go to a sex therapist. Its not healthy for you, in my opinion, to just try to do something like sex out of a sense of duty... and to be honest, as a husband, it would turn me off and I'd walk away. I would view it as my duty as a wife to assist my husband in learning to be a good lover, which includes many things, but especially that he assist the wife in climaxing as many times as she wants to until she's satisfied. Obviously, it should already be in his mind to love his wife in this way and not seek his own pleasure at the expense of her. All of this is pretty commonplace knowledge now, so I don't know why I'm talking about it. I'll add this: I would be concerned if I was engaged to a girl who told me that she never masturbated to [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. See christiannymphos.org if interested in Christian women who pursue sexual happiness.
The Bible doesn't directly deal with smoking.
I have just come across this thread - a late starter
Terms are important.
We must distinguish between human sexuality and sexual morality. We were created to be sexual beings - gender, sex organs, internal 'wiring'. That's human sexuality. It is what we do with our God given sexuality that constitutes the moral aspects of sex.
Sexual interest, thoughts and physical responses are normal. We must accept them for what they are, like hunger, tiredness etc, components of being human. None of that is 'flesh' or 'fleshly lusts' as many seem to believe. We err greatly when we convert a normal part of being human into something corrupt.
Wrong lust requires both desire and intent to act wrongly. Many natural sexual responses happen, but do not have either of these two essential moral components, and therefore are not to be considered 'lust'.
It appears to me that many Christians equate sexual interest/arousal as constituting 'sinful lust'. That is wrong, and potentially harmful.
It requires healthy and wholesome sexual values and concepts to fulfil our sexual capacity as God intends. One can have moral sex i.e. sex with one's spouse, that is merely mechanical, one sided, boring - OK morally, but bad sex. One can have great sex outside of God's principles - OK sex but bad morally. Good sex, in a biblical sense, is sex within a committed relationship that delights, refreshes, communicates, enlivens, exhausts, enriches, gives and receives physical pleasure and satisfies the inner depths of each person. And on many occasions, just fun too.
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God tells us to multiply but to also resist the two trees.
Nice try, but not quite. There are 10 different words translated "lust" in the New Testament, and only one of them can mean simple desire. Click on the word and you will not only see the definition but also the list of uses and in which books.Ah....... a breath of fresh scriptural air in the midst of the bellowings of churchianity and confusion.
There is no sin of masturbation and "lust" is simply the word "desire" in the Bible.
Again, for the reasons listed above, false.It is not a sinful or sexual term, unless the context says so.
Also false. The context includes all women, not just married women.Matt. 5:28 does not condemn "lusting" for women, only married women* ...
And again, false. This is a Hebrew idiom, the word used of those who at a woman's solicitation are drawn away to idolatry, literally to the eating of things sacrificed to idols but metaphorically all things coming between a man and God are idols. That includes illicit sex of any kind.... or any other forbidden sexual coupling.
Proof please. Otherwise this looks like a pathetic effort to justify sin. Which it is.the word is used of those who at a woman's solicitation are drawn away to idolatry, i.e. to the eating of things sacrificed to idols. If you don't know what things are forbidden sexually, read Leviticus 18... and NO, it doesn't say any sex other than with your one wife.... someone added that.
The Bible doesn't directly deal with smoking.Amen Brother
Shall we sin that grace may abound?Joey. Stick to the point. The 2 trees have nothing to do with God's first commandment.
Nice try, but not quite. There are 10 different words translated "lust" in the New Testament, and only one of them can mean simple desire. Click on the word and you will not only see the definition but also the list of uses and in which books.
Again, for the reasons listed above, false. Also false. The context includes all women, not just married women.And again, false. This is a Hebrew idiom, the word used of those who at a woman's solicitation are drawn away to idolatry, literally to the eating of things sacrificed to idols but metaphorically all things coming between a man and God are idols. That includes illicit sex of any kind.Proof please. Otherwise this looks like a pathetic effort to justify sin. Which it is.
And as I pointed out, there is no limitation to "married women only" in that passage, so he is wrong, and so are you. You both want to jump on "desire" as the definitive word in the translation, but this kind of "desire" is sinful. It is lust. Call it what you want, but that won't change what the word means.Methinks the man doth protest too much.
The central issue is what Greek word is used in Matt 5:28, not what other Greek words may be used elsewhere, or how each was translated.
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