Can you be Christian and believe in evolution?

[Job 33:6]

Are you kidding me? I will not answer your question. Sorry. You can find the answer on YouTube if you like.

You won't answer it because you can't.

According to the The theory of evolution, if a mother never gives birth to a child of a new species, then where do new species come from?

Indeed, this is the only way new species can come to be, at least according to evolution.

They don't come from outer space.

 

[olgamc]

You won't answer it because you can't.

Yeah. Whatever you say.

According to the The theory of evolution, if a mother never gives birth to a child of a new species, then where do new species come from?

According to the theory of evolution, through a process called speciation.

Indeed, this is the only way new species can come to be, at least according to evolution.

That’s not evolution. Lol

They don't come from outer space.

At least this we can agree on.

 

[Job 33:6]

Yeah. Whatever you say.

According to the theory of evolution, through a process called speciation.

That’s not evolution. Lol

At least this we can agree on.

And in the process of speciation, if a mother does not give birth to a baby of a new species, then where do new species come from?

 

[olgamc]

And in the process of speciation, if a mother does not give birth to a baby of a new species, then where do new species come from?

 

[Job 33:6]

Face it, you're unable to answer the question.

Think about it this way. We are homo sapiens. We are members of a species. At some point in time, unless we were all simultaneously born instantaneously, according to evolution and the process of speciation, one of us must have been born first, right?

 

[Job 33:6]

Nice video btw. So if you watch the video, they go from 200, to 1200 to some very large number of generations. At some point in time, a bird will be born, a single individual, in which it's mating call would be rejected by the original species. All populations begin as individuals, the fundamental component of populations. Can't have a population without individuals.

 

[olgamc]

Face it, you're unable to answer the question.

I don't have to answer your question. The video does. Did you watch it? Did you understand it?

Think about it this way. We are homo sapiens. We are members of a species. At some point in time, unless we were all simultaneously born instantaneously, according to evolution and the process of speciation, one of us must have been born first, right?

What you think is evolution is not evolution. What you think Genesis says is not what Genesis says. So go ahead and think what you think.

 

[olgamc]

Nice video btw. So if you watch the video, they go from 200, to 1200 to some very large number of generations. At some point in time, a bird will be born, a single individual, in which it's mating call would be rejected by the original species. All populations begin as individuals, the fundamental component of populations. Can't have a population without individuals.

Exactly. By the ORIGINAL species. You know what a second cousin thrice removed is? Like that, only much more removed. The individual's own parents or brothers and sisters are the same species as the individual.

 

[Job 33:6]

Exactly. By the ORIGINAL species. You know what a second cousin thrice removed is? Like that, only much more removed. It's own mom or brothers and sisters are the same species as the individual.

Once the mating call is rejected by the original, the population is identified as a new species. Meaning that the bird making the mating call, is of the new species. Even if it's siblings are not rejected in the same way.

 

[Job 33:6]

Once the mating call is rejected by the original, the population is identified as a new species. Meaning that the bird making the mating call, is of the new species. Even if it's siblings are not rejected in the same way.

Or, you could consider this as well. If the birds call was rejected, and it's siblings calls were rejected as well, we would identify them as members of a new species, but of course of the bird and it's siblings, one still had to be born first. Of the new species, one of the individuals came before the rest. Which is to say that one was born first of a mother of the original species.

In the theory of evolution, there is no other way for members of a new species to come into existence but through birth. They don't teleport in from space do they? No, they come from a mother. And one has to be born first, unless you think they all instantaneously appeared at the same time out of thin air.

 

[olgamc]

Once the mating call is rejected by the original, the population is identified as a new species. Meaning that the bird making the mating call, is of the new species. Even if it's siblings are not rejected in the same way.

It's siblings would be rejected in the same way. If it's siblings are not rejected in the same way, it's not a new species, it's just an awkward individual. The definition of species is a group of individuals that are able to interbreed. Different species - as in groups - do not interbreed.

 

[Job 33:6]

It's siblings would be rejected in the same way. If it's siblings are not rejected in the same way, it's not a new species, it's just an awkward individual. The definition of species is a group of individuals that are able to interbreed. Different species - as in groups - do not interbreed.

And if it's siblings are rejected in the same way, as I've said, one still had to be born first. If you have 10 birds, all rejected and Identified as a new species, one was still born first. Just because they're of a new species, doesn't mean they weren't born of mothers.

 

[olgamc]

Or, you could consider this as well. If the birds call was rejected, and it's siblings calls were rejected as well, we would identify them as members of a new species, but of course of the bird and it's siblings, one still had to be born first. If the new species, one of the individuals came before the rest. Which is to say that one was born first of a mother of the original species.

Look at, don't argue with me. I didn't invent this theory. Go argue with Darwin or something.

In the theory of evolution, there is no other way for members of a new species to come into existence but through birth. They don't teleport in from space do they? No, they come from a mother. And one has to be born first, unless you think they all instantaneously appeared at the same time out of thin air.

If you did not understand the video, how do you think I can explain it to you?

 

[Job 33:6]

Look at, don't argue with me. I didn't invent this theory. Go argue with Darwin or something.

If you did not understand the video, how do you think I can explain it to you?

Sounds like you don't understand the subject. Which is why you can't answer the question. If not born of mothers, where do you think members of a new species come from? According to evolution? They don't fly in from outer space. They don't spring up out of the earth. Members of New species, according to evolution, are born of mothers.

And I'm sorry if you're confused about how biology works.

 

[olgamc]

And if it's siblings are rejected in the same way, as I've said, one still had to be born first. If you have 10 birds, all rejected and Identified as a new species, one was still born first. Just because they're of a new species, doesn't mean they weren't born of mothers.

Sure they had mothers. But their mothers (as gross as it may sound) would not have rejected them. So their mothers are the same species. Their cousins are the ones rejecting them. Speciation doesn't happen through mothers, it happens through cousins. After a very long time of being physically separated.

 

[Job 33:6]

Sounds like you don't understand the subject. Which is why you can't answer the question. If not born of mothers, where do you think members of a new species come from? According to evolution? They don't fly in from outer space. They don't spring up out of the earth. Members of New species, according to evolution, are born of mothers.

And I'm sorry if you're confused about how biology works.

And I'm not arguing with the theory, I'm arguing with your misunderstanding of it.

 

[olgamc]

Sounds like you don't understand the subject. Which is why you can't answer the question. If not born of mothers, where do you think members of a new species come from? According to evolution? They don't fly in from outer space. They don't spring up out of the earth. Members of New species, according to evolution, are born of mothers.

No. Cousins.

And I'm sorry if you're confused about how biology works.

LOL

And I'm not arguing with the theory, I'm arguing with your misunderstanding of it.

Genius

Ok man, let's settle on this. I don't understand anything. You understand everything. Let's sum this up. Adam was born from a primate and that's the evolution you believe in. Ok, you go right ahead. Take all the words, bara them different meanings, and then bara yourself a winner.

Bye Job 33:6, nice talking to you.

 

[Job 33:6]

Sure they had mothers. But their mothers (as gross as it may sound) would not have rejected them. So their mothers are the same species. Their cousins are the ones rejecting them. Speciation doesn't happen through mothers, it happens through cousins. After a very long time of being physically separated.

Ok so that bird that is rejected, we agree is of a new species, and that it is still the first of a new species. And...it came from a mother. Right? We don't retroactively go back and change it's mother to the new species as well.

 

[olgamc]

Ok so that bird that is rejected, we agree is of a new species,

That group of birds, sure

and that it is still the first of a new species.

The individual bird - no

And...it came from a mother. Right? We don't retroactively go back and change it's mother to the new species as well.

It's mother is the same species as the bird

 

[Job 33:6]

It's mother is the same species as the bird

No, we've already established that the bird that is rejected is of a new species right?