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Can you be Christian and believe in evolution?

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Yeah. Kinda like believing there is a creator.
 
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Great, so your point is?
 
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I want to know whether you believe the historic Christian doctrine that God is the creator of all that is, seen and unseen.
That refers to Genesis. Yes.
You sound like you believe that unless God formed a human out of the dirt in a single day, he didn't create him.
Correct. Not the way He claimed.
 
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Applying something from a farm to believers is fine. Now if Paul said 'there are no oxen, no Adam and no Eve, well that would be different
 
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Its a joke if you believe that everything evolved from a single cell organism instead of God creating it.

To "believe" in evolution doesn't mean I have to assume that life on earth began all by its little self.
 
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To "believe" in evolution doesn't mean I have to assume that life on earth began all by its little self.
Perhaps not, but you do have to believe that all species descended from a common ancestor.
 
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Perhaps not, but you do have to believe that all species descended from a common ancestor.

I don't 'have' to believe in anything, but I do choose to look at and assess the evidence for evolution. If, on the other hand, you don't wish to do so, no one is going to force you to. You're free to read the first chapters of Genesis in a woodenly literal fashion is you like.
 
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The point was you think it is ok as a Christian to believe that we all evolved from a common ancestor. No conflict despite what the Bible says. You can believe anything you want and still be a Christian is what I’m hearing.
Sounds like something a non Christian would say. The way is narrow my friend.
 
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Great, so your point is?
I gave you want you wanted - examples - because you were unwilling/unable to check the links. I do not know what was your point why you wanted them. I only asked if you are even aware that the Genesis genealogies are different in different textual families, did you forget again?
 
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Examples of what? What do all those verses say in your mind that you offer them?
 
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Applying something from a farm to believers is fine.
He's not just applying it. He's saying that it did not apply to the farm -- the commandment is solely there for application to believers. He rejects the literal meaning.

Your refusal to apply your own method of reading scripture to this passage makes it clear that it isn't the principle that's important to you: it's more important that you maintain evolution as a marker that separates the good guys (your team) from the bad guys (the other team). Any concession of common ground might raise the possibility that you're talking to fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who disagree with you about something, and that's just too threatening to your identity.
 
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Examples of what? What do all those verses say in your mind that you offer them?
It seems you have some problems with memory, so I will not continue in this. You can read the posts that led here, if you want to know examples of what you wanted.
 
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I didn't say it's "ok" to believe in evolution. I simply indicated that I "believe" that evolution is a real thing. I'm very well aware there is an apparent conflict between this and the Genesis narrative and have for most of my life.

What you should be hearing (and understanding) from me is that I'm saying a person, like myself, can be a Christian even though I've had to work through my understanding of evolution in order to do so.

And you're correct: the way is narrow, especially when we're speaking about justified true beliefs. My point here is that I think you should give those of us who "barely believe" a break and just be thankful that we are able to also believe that Jesus Christ lived, died and rose again. It would be the gracious and charitable thing to do.
 
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