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Can you be a christian without church?

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May Jesus/God continue Blessing you in all of His Wondrous Holy Wisdom Guidance and Enlightenment and Holy Works WillyT!

Love and kindest wishes your Sister in Jesus Christ our Saviour

"His Spirit lives in you, and His Spirit is Him... and He came to seek out lost people. He did not come to make you or me feel all warm and fuzzy, staying to ourselves. He came into us so that we would take Him out to keep on finding lost souls".
 
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Can you be a christian without going to church..... Ever?

Your thoughts please guys!

take a few months and look up and read / devour Scripture and Hebrew and Greek Word studies to see

that ecclesia is the set apart ones, immersed in the Name Yeshua, who believed in Yeshua and who repented of their life and of their sins and were saved from them as Yeshua said
and were delivered from the kingdom of 'self' to the kingdom of Yhvh (God became their God) with ALL OF YHVH'S PEOPLE>

ecclesia WAS NOT a building of brick and stone and wood
but WAS and IS the people set apart in Yeshua by grace through faith in Him.

so, if you are born of Yhvh, immersed in Yeshua, you are already in union with Him and set apart as part of His people, His ecclesia, under His (Yeshua's) Lordship (i.e. not just saying 'lord,lord', but doing what He says all the time) --- you were crucified with Christ before the creation of the world, nevertheless you live but not you rather Christ lives in you by faith.

no doctrine saves you. or sets you apart in Yeshua HaMashiach. Yhvh does. Yhvh saves you. Yhvh gives you life. Yhvh sets you apart from the world and your family and your past and your sin and puts you in, sets you in His people , the body of believers, fellow members in Yeshua HaMashiach , in union in Him. your life is not your own, but belongs to Him. listen to Him and do as He says. (as Yhvh said plainly in the Gospels).
 
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Can you be a christian without going to church..... Ever?

Your thoughts please guys!

Yes, but by that same token I think your faith becomes rather hampered by the lack of exposure to others and proper education within the church's walls. not to mention the sheer lack of sacramental ministry being available to the person.

Also the ones that don't go tend to generally come up with or hold to views that become more and more extreme and radical.
 
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Yes, God never said you had to congregate amongst other Christians to be saved, all you have to do is accept Jesus Christ as your savior. Church is used to lift our spirits and help us grow in Christ, but it's not something we have to do. Just be saved, and try to follow the commandments, and love your neighbor like you love yourself.

The assumption there is, I take it, that attending church or church membership is of value only for the purposes of fellowship.
 
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The assumption there is, I take it, that attending church or church membership is of value only for the purposes of fellowship.

Well church helps us grow daily, I will admit it does help our spirit man, and our walk with Christ. The Word (Bible) is living, so when we take it in we get stronger in Him, and we can use this strength from hearing and being doers of the word to battle the devil. But I will say that we do not have to go to church to be a Christian or to be saved, but church IS very beneficial for those seeking more. Church can strengthen ones foundation, help someone grow in Christ, help someone get to know Christ better, and so forth but it's not required.
 
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Church can strengthen ones foundation, help someone grow in Christ, help someone get to know Christ better, and so forth but it's not required.

You are correct with this, and also correct that is not required. It's not always possible depending on the person and their circumstances. I'm bugged some people believe you cannot be a "real Christian" or a "serious Christian" if you do not currently attend a church; to me that's simplifying it too much.
 
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You are correct with this, and also correct that is not required. It's not always possible depending on the person and their circumstances. I'm bugged some people believe you cannot be a "real Christian" or a "serious Christian" if you do not currently attend a church; to me that's simplifying it too much.

It's just sad that some people believe it is required, some people can't simply make it due to health reasons or things like lack of time. You can worship and honor Christ anywhere, doesn't just have to be at Church.
 
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Well church helps us grow daily, I will admit it does help our spirit man, and our walk with Christ. The Word (Bible) is living, so when we take it in we get stronger in Him, and we can use this strength from hearing and being doers of the word to battle the devil. But I will say that we do not have to go to church to be a Christian or to be saved, but church IS very beneficial for those seeking more. Church can strengthen ones foundation, help someone grow in Christ, help someone get to know Christ better, and so forth but it's not required.

It sounds like there is essentially a consensus on this since what you said -- and what I'd written -- were both points made earlier in this thread.

As another poster put it, yes, it's possible to be a Christian and decline to attend church; it's just not possible to be a good one and never attend church.
 
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It's just sad that some people believe it is required, some people can't simply make it due to health reasons or things like lack of time.

Obviously, we know there are people who can't attend church, due to illness, perhaps a military deployment, etc. But that isn't what we're talking about.

We're not talking about people who want to be a part of the Church but can't, due to reasons beyond their control, but people who can, but choose not to .

Those people who cannot attend church due to reasons beyond their control still need the Church. That's why we have ministries to take church to them.

You're right in saying that it's not required for salvation, but it is still a command.

You can worship and honor Christ anywhere, doesn't just have to be at Church.

That's true. But you can't worship corporately anywhere. You can't gather corporately for the preaching and teaching of the Word anywhere. You can't submit to Godly pastors or elders anywhere. You can't observe the ordinances of the Church anywhere. You can't edify the Body or be edified anywhere. You can't submit to Church discipline anywhere. You can't fellowship anywhere.

To say you don't have to be a part of a local assembly because you can "worship anywhere", is not only a cop-out and excuse for disobedience, it's also terrible ecclesiology, as "worship" is not the only purpose of the Church.

If what you're saying is true, then why is the pattern we see in scripture and the Didache salvation, baptism, membership, submission?

Where are we ever told in scripture that people are saved and then say "no thanks" to the Church? Where, anywhere in scripture, do we see people getting saved and then being released back into the wild to become feral Christians?
 
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Obviously, we know there are people who can't attend church, due to illness, perhaps a military deployment, etc. But that isn't what we're talking about.
Correct. That's another subject altogether.

That's true. But you can't worship corporately anywhere. You can't gather corporately for the preaching and teaching of the Word anywhere. You can't submit to Godly pastors or elders anywhere. You can't observe the ordinances of the Church anywhere. You can't edify the Body or be edified anywhere. You can't submit to Church discipline anywhere. You can't fellowship anywhere.

Wellllllll, you might be able to fellowship elsewhere. That said, the rest of that paragraph could hardly have been said any better.

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Well church helps us grow daily, I will admit it does help our spirit man, and our walk with Christ. The Word (Bible) is living, so when we take it in we get stronger in Him, and we can use this strength from hearing and being doers of the word to battle the devil. But I will say that we do not have to go to church to be a Christian or to be saved, but church IS very beneficial for those seeking more. Church can strengthen ones foundation, help someone grow in Christ, help someone get to know Christ better, and so forth but it's not required.

To me Church is where the word is proclaimed, prayers are offered for the whole world, and the sacrament is administered. It's where I get "refueled" for the week...so my walk with Christ can be strengthened.
 
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Albion said:
Wellllllll, you might be able to fellowship elsewhere. That said, the rest of that paragraph could hardly have been said any better.

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Thanks. There are different kinds of fellowship. I was speaking specifically of the koinonia fellowship spoken of in scripture.
 
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Yes of-course. The church is not a building or institution. It is the body of Christ.

1577 ekklēsía(from 1537 /ek, "out from and to" and 2564 /kaléō, "to call") – properly, people called out from the world and to God.

1Co 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

So they are called out from those born of the world, the world. It is not a building.

Yeh, we all know that. But when the question is asked about attending church or being a Christian without church, it's not asking if you are part of the body. Obviously. So, is there any reason to attend worship services with other believers? The Scriptures are pretty clear about that. Yes, you should, even though it is possible to "be" a Christian in isolation or semi-isolation.
 
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^Some people did say it was not possible in this thread. The commenter 'South bond' actually disagreed with me. So not everyone is aware.

You said the Church is not an institution, when the Bible describes the Church as an institution. So it would appear that you're the one who's not aware.

The question was about whether it is possible to be a Christian without going to a building. Yes it is. Period.

Straw man. The question has nothing to do with whether or not one can be a Christian without going to a building, but whether or not one can be a Christian (or, at least, what kind of Christian one will be) without following the Biblical instruction to be a part of a local church and all that entails.

That is why it was important for me to highlight what the church is in the Biblical context.

And you failed.
 
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^Some people did say it was not possible in this thread. The commenter 'South bond' actually disagreed with me. So not everyone is aware.
Not aware that when we speak of needing church, we're NOT thinking of a building? I don't think so. ^_^

And BTW, that line has been used so many times here, you can't imagine. Every time someone talks about the importance (or unimportance) of church membership, attendance at worship services, receiving the sacraments, gathering with other believers, or something close to any of those...we get the reply from some poster or other saying, sagely, "church is not a building."
 
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I only care what the Bible says and what the question was.

Me too. :)

And if you read the OP and the title he selected for his thread, you'll find that he never said a thing about "church" meaning a building.
 
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