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Can you “ KNOW “ that you are saved ?

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Heb 11(1): Faith is the substance of things hoped for! : but this brother says faith is not hope : what do you do with these people !
Faith is not hope. Hope and faith are two aspects of grace. You are in error and refuse to be corrected. I will pray for you. Look at the verse in Hebrews 11:1
Faith is the substance. So ask yourself the question. What is this substance? The verse tell you what the substance is. It is the substance of things. What things? The things you are hoping for. Faith is also evidence. What kind of evidence? The evidence of things not seen.
1Cor. 13:13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
Hope is not faith.
 
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( 10 ) : ” CAN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE SAVED ? “
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You hear people all the time, with great spiritual pride , say that they KNOW that they are saved with no doubts whatsoever , and that if you have any doubts , there is something wrong with your faith ! Well is it possible to know that you are saved without any doubts whatsoever ! The bible says that we are saved by grace through faith : EPHESIANS 2 ( 8 ) : ” For by grace are ye saved THROUGH FAITH ! ” Well just what exactly is faith ? : The bible’s definition : HEBREWS 11 ( 1 ) : ” Now faith is the substance of THINGS HOPED FOR , the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN . ” So FAITH IS HOPING for something that we as yet CANNOT SEE , but we are believing that it will be , without any actual visual physical evidence of it, but only the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN , which of course is not real evidence : So we ultimately have ONLY HOPE ! : ROMANS 8 ( 24&25 ) : 24 : ” FOR WE ARE SAVED BY HOPE , BUT HOPE THAT IS SEEN IS NOT HOPE , FOR WHAT A MAN SEETH WHY DOTH HE YET HOPE FOR IT ? ” 25 : ” BUT IF WE HOPE FOR THAT WE SEE NOT , THEN DO WE WITH PATIENCE ” WAIT FOR IT ” : OBVIOUSY HOPING IS NOT KNOWING ! For example : Did the great Saints of God all through history know that they were saved , or did they also have to operate by faith , hoping and believing that they would be saved at some future time , without any real present visible proof : HEBREWS 11 ( 13 , 27 , & 39 ) : 13 : ” These all died in faith , NOT HAVING RECEIVED THE PROMISES , but having seen them afar off , and were persuaded of them . ” 27 : ” BY FAITH he forsook Egypt , not fearing the wrath of the king , for he endured as SEEING HIM WHO IS INVISIBLE . ” 39 : ” And these all , having obtained a good report through faith RECEIVED NOT THE PROMISE . ” None of these great men of God received the promises , right unto their deaths , but OPERATED SOLELY ON HOPE AND BELIEF of things they believed would come : THEY DID NOT KNOW : THEY BELIEVED ! If we had absolute present visual proof of our salvation , it would be no big accomplishment to stick with the Lord, anybody could do that : But the fact that we only have hope makes it far more difficult to hang in there with the Lord to the end , like brother Paul says 1 TIMOTHY 6 ( 12 ) : ” Fight the good FIGHT OF FAITH . ” and 2 TIMOTHY 4 ( 7 ) : ” I have fought a good fight , I have finished my course , I have KEPT THE FAITH ! ” HE DIDN’T KNOW FOR SURE WITHOUT DOUBT , as he says : HE HAD TO FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO KEEP HIS FAITH , his belief , fight against the doubts , and he kept his faith with only hope : THE SAME HOPE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO SUSTAIN OUR FAITH : HEBREWS 6 ( 18&19 ) : 18 : ” To lay hold upon THE HOPE set before us , ” 19 : ” WHICH HOPE WE HAVE AS AN ANCHOR OF THE SOUL . ” Is there anything that we can do to increase and strengthen our faith ? : ROMANS 10 ( 17 ) : ” Faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God ” If we study the word of God and read where all God’s true people also had to operate by hope and faith alone : This strengthens our faith also ! Of course there are many who teach the false teaching that we are saved here and now , but the Bible says : 1 PETER 1 ( 13 ) : ” Hope to the end for the grace that IS TO BE BROUGHT UNTO YOU AT THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST ” : NOT NOW ! and 1 PETER 1 ( 9 ) : ” Receiving THE END OF YOUR FAITH even the salvation of your souls . ” : NOT NOW BUT AT THE END OF YOUR FAITH ! Further scriptural evidence that our salvation is not by knowing but only by hope : TITUS 1 ( 2 ) : ” In HOPE of eternal life . ” and TITUS 2 ( 13 ) : ” The HOPE of eternal life . ” and 1 THESSALONIANS 5 ( 8 ) : ‘ For an helmet the HOPE of salvation . ” There is only one verse that seems to say that we can know that we have eternal life and this is of course 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) : ” That you may know that you have eternal life . ” Yet this same brother two chapters earlier in 1 JOHN 3 ( 2 ) says that we can know that we shall be like God , but in the very next verse , talking about the same thing says : that WE ONLY HAVE A HOPE OF THIS : 1 JOHN 3 ( 2&3 ) : 2 : ” We know that when he shall appear , we shall be like him . ” 3 : ” And every man that hath this HOPE in him purifieth himself . ” So we can see that when John says we can know something he actually means THAT WE HAVE THIS HOPE ! So applying this understanding to 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) , when he says that we may know that we have eternal life , this would mean that we actually only have a hope of this as he said in 1 JOHN 3 ( 3 ) . The fact that the rest of the scriptures all say that we have only hope clarifies what exactly 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) really means , and it is a widely misunderstood verse which those that are unlearned and unstable wrest, 2 PETER 3 ( 16 ) . So the answer to the opening question of this study would be : NO WE CANNOT KNOW THAT WE ARE SAVED HERE AND NOW , BUT WE HAVE TO OPERATE AS ALL GOD’S PEOPLE THROUGH HISTORY HAVE OPERATED , BY FAITH , WHICH IS ONLY HOPE OF SOME FUTURE THING , WHICH AT PRESENT WE CANNOT VISUALLY SEE , SO WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH , BELIEF TO THE END OF OUR TIME HERE, AFTER WHICH IF WE KEEP THE FAITH , THEN WE WILL RECEIVE THE PROMISE : THIS IS ALL BY FAITH : NOT KNOWING : BUT FAITH !
Holy Spirit is with us. Don't know what else anybody can want for prove
 
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Is it man,or is it Christ Jesus that accepts one into His kingdom? Was it Jesus Christ that died for the ability to do this, or is it man's teachings today? Does man simply pronounce sinful man spiritually saved Or is it God through His Christ Jesus?

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John 3:16-17 Rom 10:9-10.. PERIOD. See HE cant lie. So if HE said it then its true. For me.. I don't care what "MAN" says.. my Father said by Christ if I believe in Him I will NEVER tasted death and have every lasting life. WHY would I EVER look at Him and say "but SO AND SO said"... na.. not going to do that lol
 
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without any actual visual physical evidence of it, but only the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN , which of course is not real evidence :
This is the foundational error right here in what you said.

You say because we don’t see it physically it is not real evidence . Wrong 100 percent wrong there.

For believers we know that Christ in you IS THE HOPE as scripture teaches.

Jesus Christ is in all believers he is the substance and evidence inwardly .

But we see with the eyes of the spirit spiritual eyes and ears .from the new man the inward man the new creation which is real.

We look on the things that are not seen.

God himself is a Spirit and he is real.

2 Corinthians 13 - 5. Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?”

Ephesians 3 - 17. That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,”

John 3 - 3. Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
 
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( 10 ) : ” CAN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE SAVED ? “
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You hear people all the time, with great spiritual pride , say that they KNOW that they are saved with no doubts whatsoever , and that if you have any doubts , there is something wrong with your faith ! Well is it possible to know that you are saved without any doubts whatsoever !
Read post # 40 and try to respond to the clear scriptures.

hiding and avoiding them does no good

Ephesians 3:12
"In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him."


1 John 3:21
"Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward God."


Romans 8:16
The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
 
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Regarding "knowing you are saved".
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If you as a Christian, don't know if you are , then you are ither dealing with guilt about something you did or are doing, which is leading to the inner condemnation that makes you feel unsure of your salvation, or, you are someone who does not really understand the Atonement.
Perhaps you are both ?

Listen.
Let us understand together what Salvation is preventing, so that you can understand what the purpose of it is all about.

Simply..... What is the only real difference between a Christians and a Non-Believer?

A.), One is going to heaven after they die to live with God and Christ in Joy, and the other is only going there briefly to hit Revelation 20:11 and then they will be gone from Heaven., for eternity.
Thats really about it.

So, when we think of the purpose for Jesus on a Cross, ...there is really only one.
Its to solve, as a gift from God, the ONLY reason a person will NOT go to Heaven to stay.
This is why Jesus hung, bled, and died on the Cross... He is bleeding and dying there to offer a solution to the one issue everyone faces, that is keeping them out of Heaven, after they die, = unless they Let JESUS resolve it for them.

And what is that Problem?
That Problem is what Salvation takes care of, and once it does, then there is nothing left that can block you from going to heaven, and that is WHY, once this is solved, then you an KNOW you are going to heaven to stay, which is of course...> "how can I know I am saved".

So, what is the ONE issue that must be solved, by Jesus on a Cross for you, that if its not you will end up in Hell?

Jesus explains this very simply in John 8:24...... """"" I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am He (the Savior, the Messiah), you will indeed die IN your Sins."

So, do you see the issue?
"SINS"...."SIN"...."dying in them"......this means, you are not forgiven for them, and In this case, YOU will pay for them in Eternity.
See it?
That is what SALVATION is given for to resolve for everyone who will be born again accepting Christ as their Savior"
"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be SAVED"

"SAVED" from the consequences of "dying in your sin".

Get it?
See it?
That is what you are saved FROM.
This is what Salvation is doing for you, if you are SAVED.

So, there is only one reason you would not go to heaven, and that is ...... YOU SIN IS NOT PAID FOR by Christ on a CROSS.
So, in that case, if you die, YOU WILL PAY FOR THEM, and that is not what you want to do.

So, how do you know if you are saved?.......How do you know if you are going to Heaven?
The answer is.... WHO PAYS FOR YOUR SIN?
IF JESUS HAS, Then your eternity is secure "in Christ", and you are currently "seated in Heavenly places", and will certainly be there literally once you are dead, with your body to follow later and you'll be given a new one that is "made without hands".

See, its all about your SIN, as this is the block, this is the barrier, this is the issue that has to be resolved, so that you can KNOW you are saved.
Take care of that, and you can Know that DAY, and everyday after that you are saved, "in Christ", and are absolutely going to Heaven to be with your Father and all other believers.

Have you already?.....Have you been saved?.....Born again?.....Then you KNOW you will go to heaven, as the only thing (sin) that was keeping you out once you died, has been RESOLVED.
So, Be happy about this.
Relax.
Enjoy what God has eternally done for you through Christ.
Rejoice.
 
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( 10 ) : ” CAN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE SAVED ? “
August 24, 2017gigoboy777 Leave a comment
You hear people all the time, with great spiritual pride , say that they KNOW that they are saved with no doubts whatsoever , and that if you have any doubts , there is something wrong with your faith ! Well is it possible to know that you are saved without any doubts whatsoever ! The bible says that we are saved by grace through faith : EPHESIANS 2 ( 8 ) : ” For by grace are ye saved THROUGH FAITH ! ” Well just what exactly is faith ? : The bible’s definition : HEBREWS 11 ( 1 ) : ” Now faith is the substance of THINGS HOPED FOR , the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN . ” So FAITH IS HOPING for something that we as yet CANNOT SEE , but we are believing that it will be , without any actual visual physical evidence of it, but only the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN , which of course is not real evidence : So we ultimately have ONLY HOPE ! : ROMANS 8 ( 24&25 ) : 24 : ” FOR WE ARE SAVED BY HOPE , BUT HOPE THAT IS SEEN IS NOT HOPE , FOR WHAT A MAN SEETH WHY DOTH HE YET HOPE FOR IT ? ” 25 : ” BUT IF WE HOPE FOR THAT WE SEE NOT , THEN DO WE WITH PATIENCE ” WAIT FOR IT ” : OBVIOUSY HOPING IS NOT KNOWING ! For example : Did the great Saints of God all through history know that they were saved , or did they also have to operate by faith , hoping and believing that they would be saved at some future time , without any real present visible proof : HEBREWS 11 ( 13 , 27 , & 39 ) : 13 : ” These all died in faith , NOT HAVING RECEIVED THE PROMISES , but having seen them afar off , and were persuaded of them . ” 27 : ” BY FAITH he forsook Egypt , not fearing the wrath of the king , for he endured as SEEING HIM WHO IS INVISIBLE . ” 39 : ” And these all , having obtained a good report through faith RECEIVED NOT THE PROMISE . ” None of these great men of God received the promises , right unto their deaths , but OPERATED SOLELY ON HOPE AND BELIEF of things they believed would come : THEY DID NOT KNOW : THEY BELIEVED ! If we had absolute present visual proof of our salvation , it would be no big accomplishment to stick with the Lord, anybody could do that : But the fact that we only have hope makes it far more difficult to hang in there with the Lord to the end , like brother Paul says 1 TIMOTHY 6 ( 12 ) : ” Fight the good FIGHT OF FAITH . ” and 2 TIMOTHY 4 ( 7 ) : ” I have fought a good fight , I have finished my course , I have KEPT THE FAITH ! ” HE DIDN’T KNOW FOR SURE WITHOUT DOUBT , as he says : HE HAD TO FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO KEEP HIS FAITH , his belief , fight against the doubts , and he kept his faith with only hope : THE SAME HOPE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO SUSTAIN OUR FAITH : HEBREWS 6 ( 18&19 ) : 18 : ” To lay hold upon THE HOPE set before us , ” 19 : ” WHICH HOPE WE HAVE AS AN ANCHOR OF THE SOUL . ” Is there anything that we can do to increase and strengthen our faith ? : ROMANS 10 ( 17 ) : ” Faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God ” If we study the word of God and read where all God’s true people also had to operate by hope and faith alone : This strengthens our faith also ! Of course there are many who teach the false teaching that we are saved here and now , but the Bible says : 1 PETER 1 ( 13 ) : ” Hope to the end for the grace that IS TO BE BROUGHT UNTO YOU AT THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST ” : NOT NOW ! and 1 PETER 1 ( 9 ) : ” Receiving THE END OF YOUR FAITH even the salvation of your souls . ” : NOT NOW BUT AT THE END OF YOUR FAITH ! Further scriptural evidence that our salvation is not by knowing but only by hope : TITUS 1 ( 2 ) : ” In HOPE of eternal life . ” and TITUS 2 ( 13 ) : ” The HOPE of eternal life . ” and 1 THESSALONIANS 5 ( 8 ) : ‘ For an helmet the HOPE of salvation . ” There is only one verse that seems to say that we can know that we have eternal life and this is of course 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) : ” That you may know that you have eternal life . ” Yet this same brother two chapters earlier in 1 JOHN 3 ( 2 ) says that we can know that we shall be like God , but in the very next verse , talking about the same thing says : that WE ONLY HAVE A HOPE OF THIS : 1 JOHN 3 ( 2&3 ) : 2 : ” We know that when he shall appear , we shall be like him . ” 3 : ” And every man that hath this HOPE in him purifieth himself . ” So we can see that when John says we can know something he actually means THAT WE HAVE THIS HOPE ! So applying this understanding to 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) , when he says that we may know that we have eternal life , this would mean that we actually only have a hope of this as he said in 1 JOHN 3 ( 3 ) . The fact that the rest of the scriptures all say that we have only hope clarifies what exactly 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) really means , and it is a widely misunderstood verse which those that are unlearned and unstable wrest, 2 PETER 3 ( 16 ) . So the answer to the opening question of this study would be : NO WE CANNOT KNOW THAT WE ARE SAVED HERE AND NOW , BUT WE HAVE TO OPERATE AS ALL GOD’S PEOPLE THROUGH HISTORY HAVE OPERATED , BY FAITH , WHICH IS ONLY HOPE OF SOME FUTURE THING , WHICH AT PRESENT WE CANNOT VISUALLY SEE , SO WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH , BELIEF TO THE END OF OUR TIME HERE, AFTER WHICH IF WE KEEP THE FAITH , THEN WE WILL RECEIVE THE PROMISE : THIS IS ALL BY FAITH : NOT KNOWING : BUT FAITH !
That is a lot of words for sure. God gave his only begotten Son, Jesus, as propitiation for our sins, to take our punishment so that we did not have to. God did this out of love for us. In turn, we accept Jesus as our Lord, we call Him our Lord, and we accept the Grace of God as being the offer of eternal salvation for acceptance of Him as Lord. I have done these things and since then my internal love is for God and for His Son, I listen and follow the Holy Spirit and for that, I KNOW that I am saved. Will I never sin again? No. I WILL sin again. It is the nature of my flesh. But my spirit desire to be of God, with God, for God and all through His Son, therefore I know that I am saved. God is not a liar, therefore I KNOW that I am saved. Not for what I did, but for what HE did. Amen.
 
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