Can you “ KNOW “ that you are saved ?

[Oldmantook]

Salvation is referenced in the NT in the past, present and future tenses, thus it is a process and not just a one-time moment of decision. Saving faith consists of belief (Jn 3:16) and also obedience (Heb 5:9). Many emphasize the former but neglect to mention the latter. We are commanded to work out our salvation with fear and trembling (Phil 2:12). We are promised salvation only if we continue in the faith.
But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation— if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant. Col 1:22-23

1 John provides us with clues to ascertain whether we possess saving faith.
1 Jn 2:29 ...everyone who practices righteousness is born of Him.
1 Jn 2:5 But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in Him. By this we know we are in Him.
1 Jn 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.
1 Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love the brethren. He who does not love his brother abides in death.
1 Jn 3:21 Beloved, if our heart does not condemn us, we have confidence toward God.
Saving faith is a race and a fight to the finish. That is why we are to emulate
Paul who wrote: I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith (2 Tim 4:7).

 

[marineimaging]

All the great men of God in Hebrews 11 died in faith , not having received the promises but were persuaded of them but were still in faith , not knowing : Are you placing yourself above these great men of God ?

I'm sorry but I have no idea what you are referring to. I know that I am saved by the Word of God, through faith in His only begotten son, and not of works lest any man boast. I know that I am saved by the promise in John 3:16, "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." I have faith in our God, in His Word, in the Only Begotten Son. I don't know what else there is to secure my salvation. What others have to do with their time and place in Gods design is not mine to question.

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Seems to be the pattern with all his posts. I usually just make some popcorn and watch to see who bites next. Round and round it goes.

This post ends the OP's argument. Case closed. Let's all move on.

I ain't going to bite any more. LOL. And let's do move on from this argument (that is all it is) for it is not profitable.

 

[Halbhh]

( 10 ) : ” CAN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE SAVED ? “
August 24, 2017gigoboy777 Leave a comment
You hear people all the time, with great spiritual pride , say that they KNOW that they are saved with no doubts whatsoever , and that if you have any doubts , there is something wrong with your faith ! Well is it possible to know that you are saved without any doubts whatsoever ! The bible says that we are saved by grace through faith : EPHESIANS 2 ( 8 ) : ” For by grace are ye saved THROUGH FAITH ! ” Well just what exactly is faith ? : The bible’s definition : HEBREWS 11 ( 1 ) : ” Now faith is the substance of THINGS HOPED FOR , the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN . ” So FAITH IS HOPING for something that we as yet CANNOT SEE , but we are believing that it will be , without any actual visual physical evidence of it, but only the evidence of THINGS NOT SEEN , which of course is not real evidence : So we ultimately have ONLY HOPE ! : ROMANS 8 ( 24&25 ) : 24 : ” FOR WE ARE SAVED BY HOPE , BUT HOPE THAT IS SEEN IS NOT HOPE , FOR WHAT A MAN SEETH WHY DOTH HE YET HOPE FOR IT ? ” 25 : ” BUT IF WE HOPE FOR THAT WE SEE NOT , THEN DO WE WITH PATIENCE ” WAIT FOR IT ” : OBVIOUSY HOPING IS NOT KNOWING ! For example : Did the great Saints of God all through history know that they were saved , or did they also have to operate by faith , hoping and believing that they would be saved at some future time , without any real present visible proof : HEBREWS 11 ( 13 , 27 , & 39 ) : 13 : ” These all died in faith , NOT HAVING RECEIVED THE PROMISES , but having seen them afar off , and were persuaded of them . ” 27 : ” BY FAITH he forsook Egypt , not fearing the wrath of the king , for he endured as SEEING HIM WHO IS INVISIBLE . ” 39 : ” And these all , having obtained a good report through faith RECEIVED NOT THE PROMISE . ” None of these great men of God received the promises , right unto their deaths , but OPERATED SOLELY ON HOPE AND BELIEF of things they believed would come : THEY DID NOT KNOW : THEY BELIEVED ! If we had absolute present visual proof of our salvation , it would be no big accomplishment to stick with the Lord, anybody could do that : But the fact that we only have hope makes it far more difficult to hang in there with the Lord to the end , like brother Paul says 1 TIMOTHY 6 ( 12 ) : ” Fight the good FIGHT OF FAITH . ” and 2 TIMOTHY 4 ( 7 ) : ” I have fought a good fight , I have finished my course , I have KEPT THE FAITH ! ” HE DIDN’T KNOW FOR SURE WITHOUT DOUBT , as he says : HE HAD TO FIGHT ALL THE WAY TO KEEP HIS FAITH , his belief , fight against the doubts , and he kept his faith with only hope : THE SAME HOPE THAT WE ALL HAVE TO SUSTAIN OUR FAITH : HEBREWS 6 ( 18&19 ) : 18 : ” To lay hold upon THE HOPE set before us , ” 19 : ” WHICH HOPE WE HAVE AS AN ANCHOR OF THE SOUL . ” Is there anything that we can do to increase and strengthen our faith ? : ROMANS 10 ( 17 ) : ” Faith cometh by hearing , and hearing by the word of God ” If we study the word of God and read where all God’s true people also had to operate by hope and faith alone : This strengthens our faith also ! Of course there are many who teach the false teaching that we are saved here and now , but the Bible says : 1 PETER 1 ( 13 ) : ” Hope to the end for the grace that IS TO BE BROUGHT UNTO YOU AT THE REVELATION OF JESUS CHRIST ” : NOT NOW ! and 1 PETER 1 ( 9 ) : ” Receiving THE END OF YOUR FAITH even the salvation of your souls . ” : NOT NOW BUT AT THE END OF YOUR FAITH ! Further scriptural evidence that our salvation is not by knowing but only by hope : TITUS 1 ( 2 ) : ” In HOPE of eternal life . ” and TITUS 2 ( 13 ) : ” The HOPE of eternal life . ” and 1 THESSALONIANS 5 ( 8 ) : ‘ For an helmet the HOPE of salvation . ” There is only one verse that seems to say that we can know that we have eternal life and this is of course 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) : ” That you may know that you have eternal life . ” Yet this same brother two chapters earlier in 1 JOHN 3 ( 2 ) says that we can know that we shall be like God , but in the very next verse , talking about the same thing says : that WE ONLY HAVE A HOPE OF THIS : 1 JOHN 3 ( 2&3 ) : 2 : ” We know that when he shall appear , we shall be like him . ” 3 : ” And every man that hath this HOPE in him purifieth himself . ” So we can see that when John says we can know something he actually means THAT WE HAVE THIS HOPE ! So applying this understanding to 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) , when he says that we may know that we have eternal life , this would mean that we actually only have a hope of this as he said in 1 JOHN 3 ( 3 ) . The fact that the rest of the scriptures all say that we have only hope clarifies what exactly 1 JOHN 5 ( 13 ) really means , and it is a widely misunderstood verse which those that are unlearned and unstable wrest, 2 PETER 3 ( 16 ) . So the answer to the opening question of this study would be : NO WE CANNOT KNOW THAT WE ARE SAVED HERE AND NOW , BUT WE HAVE TO OPERATE AS ALL GOD’S PEOPLE THROUGH HISTORY HAVE OPERATED , BY FAITH , WHICH IS ONLY HOPE OF SOME FUTURE THING , WHICH AT PRESENT WE CANNOT VISUALLY SEE , SO WE HAVE TO FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT OF FAITH , BELIEF TO THE END OF OUR TIME HERE, AFTER WHICH IF WE KEEP THE FAITH , THEN WE WILL RECEIVE THE PROMISE : THIS IS ALL BY FAITH : NOT KNOWING : BUT FAITH !

We can know for sure He saves us and can know we are being saved. But it's not over until it's over, according to Paul.

Paul wrote to people like me (and perhaps every last Christian too) and said --

1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a great cloud of witnesses, let us throw off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles. And let us run with perseverance the race marked out for us, 2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart.

and --

12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already arrived at my goal, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers and sisters, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus.

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I've used quotes from Paul here to illustrate that what Peter, John, James and Christ say, Paul also says -- that we should make effort to remain in Christ, look to Christ, keep His words in our minds, turn and repent (over and over as many times as we stumble), and thus continue to put away the old man, and live in the spirit. It's choices, and repentance, and a walk, over time. As Christ said, we must hear His words, and do them (Matthew chapter 7), in order that we not be destroyed. It's amazing grace that He redeems us in all our imperfection, if our faith endures, as He said it will if we hear and do His words to us.

 

[marineimaging]

I've heard this saying which I believe to be accurate: if you don't know with certainty that you're saved, you're not saved. Period.

We are probably about done with this but did you find that in the Bible or is it something that was coined by someone looking to find an apologetic truism that isn't Biblical? It sounds like something my grandson would say and then when I ask him to show me..., after a couple of hours he shrugs and says, I guess not. LOL.

 

[Call me Nic]

We are probably about done with this but did you find that in the Bible or is it something that was coined by someone looking to find an apologetic truism that isn't Biblical? It sounds like something my grandson would say and then when I ask him to show me..., after a couple of hours he shrugs and says, I guess not. LOL.

No it's not in the Bible, but the Bible wants us to know we're saved when we call upon and believe on Christ. If someone is presented the Gospel and calls upon the name of the Lord, but is still unsure if they're saved, then there's a good chance they're not saved simply because that would be indicative of a lack of faith and/or lack of knowledge. However, I don't think there's any way to prove it one way or another without assumption based upon indication.

While the statement itself is a blanket statement and in no way can apply to every situation, I think it's a good thing to think about because if a person thinks about his salvation in an honest way, how can a person not know they're saved if they are saved? There is certain information that you must acquire before being able to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. If a person doesn't know they're saved, then it's probably best to assume they're not saved because like it was said, God promises us eternal life so that we know we have it. If we don't know we have it, then that is an indication we either don't know about the promises of God even though we've believed on Christ (which doesn't make sense that you can believe on something you do not know about), or we haven't called upon and believed on the Lord yet.

A person knows whether he believes on Jesus Christ and whether he's called upon the name of the Lord; so if they're unsure in anyway, they must not believe in the promises of God through Jesus Christ, thereby indicating they're not saved.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I can trust that I am saved and am being saved on account of the holy and solemn promises of God in the Gospel: that Christ was crucified, buried, dead, and rose again from the dead on the third day, that He ascended into heaven, and is coming again in glory. My salvation comes from God alone, on Christ's account, by His grace through the Means of Grace, by which I can in confidence say I belong to God because I belong to Jesus. I can look to my baptism and state "I am baptized" and all of the promises of God by His word in baptism accomplish what they declare--I have been born anew by God's grace and Spirit, crucified and buried with Christ, raised up with Christ, a child of God, an heir of God, a joint-heir with Jesus--and all other things which the Scriptures do declare of those who belong to Christ.

I, therefore, have every assurance and confidence that I belong to Jesus; not on account of anything I have done, but on account of what God has done, said, and promised.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Handmaid for Jesus]

Cares and riches of this life : See parable of the sower and the seed .

That would mean that cares and riches defeated the grace of God. That is impossible. The parable of the sower describes the various kinds of hearts that hear the word and the effects of the word on each heart. There was only one type of ground/heart that produced fruit. Maybe meditating that word will help you understand.

 

[ViaCrucis]

I've heard this saying which I believe to be accurate: if you don't know with certainty that you're saved, you're not saved. Period.

Then our salvation isn't dependent upon the grace of God and what Christ has done, but depends on me; and that is a great way to destroy the hope and assurance of our salvation.

It's not about my certainty, it's about God's faithfulness in Jesus through the Gospel. That is our assurance.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Call me Nic]

Then our salvation isn't dependent upon the grace of God and what Christ has done, but depends on me; and that is a great way to destroy the hope and assurance of our salvation.

It's not about my certainty,it's about God's faithfulness in Jesus through the Gospel. That is our assurance.

-CryptoLutheran

You can't believe on what you don't know about, and you can't be unsure of something you're supposed to be sure about.

But I tell you this: a person knows they're saved based upon the promises of God (Titus 1:2) because a person knows if they have faith on the Lord Jesus Christ, whereby they access the grace of God (Romans 5:2).

A person can't just, by happenstance, fall into salvation willy-nilly. It must be a conscious decision - and if they're presented with the Gospel, and make the conscious decision to accept the grace of God through Jesus Christ by faith, then they have been made sure of their own salvation.

So if they're unsure if they're saved, it's a good bet they're unsaved. A person would know if they believe in Jesus Christ or not.

 

[ViaCrucis]

You can't believe on what you don't know about, and you can't be unsure of something you're supposed to be sure about.

Not what Scripture says. Scripture says that faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God (Romans 10:17). Faith is a gift from God (Ephesians 2:8). Faith is not a property of the intellect, but a gift from above, as all perfect gifts are from above, from the Father (James 1:17). This gift of faith is given to us by God's word, the precious and holy Gospel, which is the power of God to save all who believe (Romans 1:16).

Your reasoning here would suggest that the mentally infirm, or small children, can't be saved--but the Gospel isn't only for healthy adults, but for everyone. Indeed, the Apostle St. Peter declared, "Repent and be baptized all of you in the name of the Lord Jesus for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, this promise is for you and for your children, and to all which the Lord our God will call to Himself." This gift is for everyone.

But I tell you this: a person knows they're saved based upon the promises of God (Titus 1:2) because a person knows if they have faith on the Lord Jesus Christ, whereby they access the grace of God (Romans 5:2).

A person can't just, by happenstance, fall into salvation willy-nilly. It must be a conscious decision - and if they're presented with the Gospel, and make the conscious decision to accept the grace of God through Jesus Christ by faith, then they have been made sure of their own salvation.

No, it isn't a conscious decision, that would be Decisionism which is contrary to Holy Scripture which says that we are saved by grace alone through faith (Ephesians 2:8), because we were formerly dead in our trespasses, dead (Ephesians 2:1), but God acted to save us, because He chose us from before the foundation of the world (Ephesians 1:3-10). It is God alone, on Christ's account alone, who saves us, delivering us from death to life, by this precious and holy Gospel word.

So if they're unsure if they're saved, it's a good bet they're unsaved. A person would know if they believe in Jesus Christ or not.

Ah, so the moment the evil one comes whispering doubts, such a person's salvation is rendered nil? How flimsy is such a faith that is destroyed single-handedly by devil and doubt? I would instead agree with Luther,

"And though this world, with devils filled,
Should threaten to undo us,
We will not fear, for God hath willed
His truth to triumph through us:
The prince of darkness grim,
We tremble not for him;
His rage we can endure,
For lo, his doom is sure,
One little word shall fell him.

That word above all earthly powers,
No thanks to them, abideth;
The Spirit and the gifts are ours
Through Him who with us sideth;
Let goods and kindreds go,
This mortal life also;
The body they may kill:
God's truth abideth still,
His kingdom is forever."

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Halbhh]

I can trust that I am saved and am being saved on account of the holy and solemn promises of God in the Gospel: that Christ was crucified, buried, dead, and rose again from the dead on the third day, that He ascended into heaven, and is coming again in glory. My salvation comes from God alone, on Christ's account, by His grace through the Means of Grace, by which I can in confidence say I belong to God because I belong to Jesus. I can look to my baptism and state "I am baptized" and all of the promises of God by His word in baptism accomplish what they declare--I have been born anew by God's grace and Spirit, crucified and buried with Christ, raised up with Christ, a child of God, an heir of God, a joint-heir with Jesus--and all other things which the Scriptures do declare of those who belong to Christ.

I, therefore, have every assurance and confidence that I belong to Jesus; not on account of anything I have done, but on account of what God has done, said, and promised.

-CryptoLutheran

I like that use of more than one tense --

We are saved, and we are being saved. Past, present, and future. Already, but also ongoing, and to be done.

It's such a wonderful nutshell summary Paul wrote in Ephesians 2 --

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do."

It's like if we can really get it that amazing gift, that amazing grace, what He has done for us, then we can't help but be overwhelmed by love! (or at least those having done significant sin! Christ even said that for those like me for whom much is forgiven, there will be much grateful love, and this is so true; so, if one can realize how sinful they have been, and then the amazing grace that you've been forgiven for those sins by only coming in repentance and faith in Christ...wow! Luke 7:47 -- ask God to help you know of your sins, and then repent and be forgiven!)

 

[marineimaging]

No it's not in the Bible, but the Bible wants us to know we're saved when we call upon and believe on Christ. If someone is presented the Gospel and calls upon the name of the Lord, but is still unsure if they're saved, then there's a good chance they're not saved simply because that would be indicative of a lack of faith and/or lack of knowledge. However, I don't think there's any way to prove it one way or another without assumption based upon indication.

While the statement itself is a blanket statement and in no way can apply to every situation, I think it's a good thing to think about because if a person thinks about his salvation in an honest way, how can a person not know they're saved if they are saved? There is certain information that you must acquire before being able to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. If a person doesn't know they're saved, then it's probably best to assume they're not saved because like it was said, God promises us eternal life so that we know we have it. If we don't know we have it, then that is an indication we either don't know about the promises of God even though we've believed on Christ (which doesn't make sense that you can believe on something you do not know about), or we haven't called upon and believed on the Lord yet.

A person knows whether he believes on Jesus Christ and whether he's called upon the name of the Lord; so if they're unsure in anyway, they must not believe in the promises of God through Jesus Christ, thereby indicating they're not saved.

One of the most difficult challenges we face as a babe in Christ is to understand the difference between the world and God. When the world says you will be eternally something isn't there is always a catch to it because you can't REALLY be eternal. But when God says it He means ETERNALLY. Forever. Nonstop. Never ending. Literally forever and that is hard to grasp for the new Christian but it is impossible for the non-Christian to understand - so they are no help. That is why I ask where it is in the Bible becasue I know a lot of older people who look back and can honestly say that there was a time they were not sure they were saved. I know there was way too many times I wasn't sure I was saved. But I can look back today on those times and know, and tell you and anybody else who wonders, and do it with absolute confidence, if you believe on Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God the Father, the Lamb of God that was crucified and rose on the third day and defeated death and who buried our sins forever giving us the keys to eternal heaven with Him, you are saved and you were saved the moment you believed that.

 

[Call me Nic]

One of the most difficult challenges we face as a babe in Christ is to understand the difference between the world and God. When the world says you will be eternally something isn't there is always a catch to it because you can't REALLY be eternal. But when God says it He means ETERNALLY. Forever. Nonstop. Never ending. Literally forever and that is hard to grasp for the new Christian but it is impossible for the non-Christian to understand - so they are no help. That is why I ask where it is in the Bible becasue I know a lot of older people who look back and can honestly say that there was a time they were not sure they were saved. I know there was way too many times I wasn't sure I was saved. But I can look back today on those times and know, and tell you and anybody else who wonders, and do it with absolute confidence, if you believe on Jesus Christ, the only begotten son of God the Father, the Lamb of God that was crucified and rose on the third day and defeated death and who buried our sins forever giving us the keys to eternal heaven with Him, you are saved and you were saved the moment you believed that.

I agree with you whole heartedly about salvation, but my whole point was simply that if a person is unsure or doubts they're saved after they're told exactly what you said right there, and its proven to them from the Bible, they might have never gotten saved in the first place; part of getting saved in the first place means that you acknowledge and believe you can never lose your salvation and that God would never take it away from you, which is why it's difficult to think why a person that is truly saved would ever doubt their salvation.

The original statement was strong language that was used to emphasize the point that a part of the salvation process is realizing the eternal security that comes with it (which is one of the core promises of God you accept and believe when you get saved). If a person never knew about or believed the eternal security in the first place, my point was that there was a good chance they were never saved. It's not always the case though, for sure, because all one must do (technically speaking, regarding what the Bible says) is believe on and call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Some people can become so backslidden that they forget the promises and/or think that they backslid enough to stop being saved even though nothing will ever change their salvation. And then, there are some that I personally know that live in fornication, drink, do drugs, curse and whatnot, but still know that salvation is by grace through faith and that they could never lose their salvation.

When I give people the Gospel and get them saved, I make sure they understand from the Bible that they have eternal security and that they will never pass into death from the time they receive salvation per the promises of God, so if a person that I led to the Lord somehow doubts that he could be saved, either a). He forgot the promise that God made to him when he believed on Jesus Christ to save him, or b). He never got saved in the first place.

 

[Christian_Follower]

2nd Tim 1:12 For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

 

[Oldmantook]

I agree with you whole heartedly about salvation, but my whole point was simply that if a person is unsure or doubts they're saved after they're told exactly what you said right there, and its proven to them from the Bible, they might have never gotten saved in the first place; part of getting saved in the first place means that you acknowledge and believe you can never lose your salvation and that God would never take it away from you, which is why it's difficult to think why a person that is truly saved would ever doubt their salvation.

The original statement was strong language that was used to emphasize the point that a part of the salvation process is realizing the eternal security that comes with it (which is one of the core promises of God you accept and believe when you get saved). If a person never knew about or believed the eternal security in the first place, my point was that there was a good chance they were never saved. It's not always the case though, for sure, because all one must do (technically speaking, regarding what the Bible says) is believe on and call upon the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. Some people can become so backslidden that they forget the promises and/or think that they backslid enough to stop being saved even though nothing will ever change their salvation. And then, there are some that I personally know that live in fornication, drink, do drugs, curse and whatnot, but still know that salvation is by grace through faith and that they could never lose their salvation.

When I give people the Gospel and get them saved, I make sure they understand from the Bible that they have eternal security and that they will never pass into death from the time they receive salvation per the promises of God, so if a person that I led to the Lord somehow doubts that he could be saved, either a). He forgot the promise that God made to him when he believed on Jesus Christ to save him, or b). He never got saved in the first place.

So if you could please clarify, you wrote: "Some people can become so backslidden that they forget the promises and/or think that they backslid enough to stop being saved even though nothing will ever change their salvation.And then, there are some that I personally know that live in fornication, drink, do drugs, curse and whatnot, but still know that salvation is by grace through faith and that they could never lose their salvation."
So are you saying that believers who do drugs, curse, fornicate, drink, etc. cannot lose their salvation? In other words they continue to do these things without repenting and are still saved?

 

[discipler7]

CAN YOU KNOW THAT YOU ARE SAVED ?

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1 John 5:13 King James Version (KJV)

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

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We have to quote Scripture in the proper context, in order to arrive at true knowledge and understanding ...

1JOHN.5: (NKJV) =
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater; for this is the witness of God which He has testified of His Son. 10 He who believes in the Son of God has the witness in himself; he who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed the testimony that God has given of His Son. 11 And this is the testimony: that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. 12 He who has the Son has life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have life.

13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
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John the apostle was explaining the true purpose of believing in the Son of God, Jesus Christ, ie eternal life, ... compared to just "falsely" believing in God and Moses or in Allah and Muhammad for eternal life or in idols or in reincarnation/nirvana or in atheism's non-afterlife or in etc.

The OP's title is "Can you know that you are saved(from hell when you die).?(cf; MATTHEW.5:27-30) The OP's title is not "Can you know that you have eternal life.? If you ask atheists, they will answer that they do not know and believe in eternal life, and that they do not need to be saved from hell when they die.

Knowing that you HAVE eternal life by believing in Jesus is different from knowing that you ARE saved from hell when you die. The former is a state of the mind/spirit while the latter is a state of the body/flesh(eg being resurrected or raptured).
....... Knowing that you have eternal life is fine and dandy but old age and death are a reality. For some, it can be a debilitating experience. Even Jesus agonized over His death on the Cross.

Paul described the journey of faith as a 42km marathon race at a time when there was no paved or tarred roads. Will we reach the finish line, like how Job had kept the faith.?(2TIMOTHY.4:7, HEBREWS.12:1)

 

[razzelflabben]

I have assurance in my salvation because of the working of the Holy Spirit in my life, just as scripture says.

 

[Call me Nic]

So if you could please clarify, you wrote: "Some people can become so backslidden that they forget the promises and/or think that they backslid enough to stop being saved even though nothing will ever change their salvation.And then, there are some that I personally know that live in fornication, drink, do drugs, curse and whatnot, but still know that salvation is by grace through faith and that they could never lose their salvation."
So are you saying that believers who do drugs, curse, fornicate, drink, etc. cannot lose their salvation? In other words they continue to do these things without repenting and are still saved?

Salvation is by the grace of God and is only accessed by faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 5:2). Salvation is not based upon any of our own merits (Ephesians 2:8-9), and turning from evil is considered works according to God (Jonah 3:10), but we are justified by faith and not works (Romans 4:5).

So a person never has to turn his life around or change in order to be saved, which is the true Gospel, because none are justified by the law of commandments (Galatians 3:11), and whosoever sins commits a transgression against the Law (1 John 3:4, James 2:10). All one has to do is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and call upon his name to be saved (Romans 10:9, Romans 10:13, Acts 16:30-31, Acts 2:21, John 3:3, 1 John 5:1). You become born again (that is, born of God) as soon as you believe and call upon the name of the Lord, and nothing can cause you to be unborn again and nothing can separate you from the love of God (Romans 8:38-39, John 5:24, John 6:47, John 10:28, Hebrews 13:5). The cause of condemnation is never believing or knowing Jesus Christ, not even once, according to Jesus himself (Matthew 7:23). Once you are born of God through faith, you can never be unborn because you are sealed with the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13).

So to answer your question: yes, whoever believes on Jesus Christ, whether they repent from sin or not, is saved. Because repenting from sin is simply turning from evil, but we are not justified by the sins we commit or don't commit, we're justified by faith alone in Jesus Christ.

 

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Salvation is by the grace of God and is only accessed by faith in Jesus Christ (Romans 5:2). Salvation is not based upon any of our own merits (Ephesians 2:8-9), and turning from evil is considered works according to God (Jonah 3:10), but we are justified by faith and not works (Romans 4:5).

So a person never has to turn his life around or change in order to be saved, which is the true Gospel, because none are justified by the law of commandments (Galatians 3:11), and whosoever sins commits a transgression against the Law (1 John 3:4, James 2:10). All one has to do is believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and call upon his name to be saved (Romans 10:9, Romans 10:13, Acts 16:30-31, Acts 2:21, John 3:3, 1 John 5:1). You become born again (that is, born of God) as soon as you believe and call upon the name of the Lord, and nothing can cause you to be unborn again and nothing can separate you from the love of God (Romans 8:38-39, John 5:24, John 6:47, John 10:28, Hebrews 13:5). The cause of condemnation is never believing or knowing Jesus Christ, not even once, according to Jesus himself (Matthew 7:23). Once you are born of God through faith, you can never be unborn because you are sealed with the Holy Spirit unto the day of redemption (Ephesians 1:13).

So to answer your question: yes, whoever believes on Jesus Christ, whether they repent from sin or not, is saved. Because repenting from sin is simply turning from evil, but we are not justified by the sins we commit or don't commit, we're justified by faith alone in Jesus Christ.

I think you'll want to compare the idea (not in scripture) of "whether they repent from sin or not" to what Christ and John said, to find out if the idea is right, or wrong, since it's only an idea, and of course we all want not ideas, but instead we want to follow Christ. What did Christ say? What did He say? Did Christ say faith without repentance is fine? What did He say about repentance? What did the apostles say about confession/repentance? Did John and James not say true things? Well, we can believe they did say true things, but it's also good to hear what Christ Himself said to us about repentance.