Can we fall from grace ?

lori milne · Mar 22, 2015

lori milne said:
Yes he did all our sins

But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. ([bless and do not curse]Matthew‬ [bless and do not curse]9‬:[bless and do not curse]13‬ KJV)

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 22, 2015

lori milne said:
Yes he did all our sins

so what sins are possibly left to repent of? none because he died for them all for all time, they are bought and paid for and under double jeopardy we cannot be tried, judged for them again, that's why there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, believers in the finished work of Jesus.

lori milne · Mar 22, 2015

thepromiseofgrace said:
so what sins are possibly left to repent of? none because he died for them all for all time, they are bought and paid for and under double jeopardy we cannot be tried, judged for them again, that's why there is now no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus, believers in the finished work of Jesus.

So your saying you don't willfully practice ANY SINS??

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, ([bless and do not curse]Hebrews‬ [bless and do not curse]10‬:[bless and do not curse]26‬ KJV)

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 22, 2015

lori milne said:
So your saying you don't willfully practice ANY SINS??

For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, ([bless and do not curse]Hebrews‬ [bless and do not curse]10‬:[bless and do not curse]26‬ KJV)

everyone willfully practices sin, we all know we are going to sin, we still do it, on some occasions we may actually turn away but it is not as if we become drawn to sin like a moth to a flame, we know it is coming but sometimes we let it happen.

This willful or not in nonsense, sin is sin and we all sin, that's why the law had to be fulfilled or heaven would be empty.

lori milne · Mar 22, 2015

thepromiseofgrace said:
everyone willfully practices sin, we all know we are going to sin, we still do it, on some occasions we may actually turn away but it is not as if we become drawn to sin like a moth to a flame, we know it is coming but sometimes we let it happen. This willful or not in nonsense, sin is sin and we all sin, that's why the law had to be fulfilled or heaven would be empty.

Your arguing that against not me but GODS WORD
It's in the bible

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 22, 2015

lori milne said:
Your arguing that against not me but GODS WORD
It's in the bible

please tell me, why did Jesus come?

lori milne · Mar 22, 2015

thepromiseofgrace said:
please tell me, why did Jesus come?

OT he would come as our savor
To save u from sin
But he also didn't take our free will away

lori milne · Mar 22, 2015

lori milne said:
OT he would come as our savor To save u from sin But he also didn't take our free will away

Clean is from sin not free will

lori milne · Mar 23, 2015

What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. ([bless and do not curse]Romans‬ [bless and do not curse]6‬:[bless and do not curse]15‬ KJV)

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 27, 2015

lori milne said:
OT he would come as our savor
To save u from sin
But he also didn't take our free will away

to save us from sin, so who is saving us from sin?

lori milne · Mar 27, 2015

thepromiseofgrace said:
to save us from sin, so who is saving us from sin?[/QUOTE

That's been stated!
His blood cleans our sins!
And we have FAITH him the word / Bible
To live sin free!
Perfect as your father In heaven is perfect!

If
I can do all things in Christ is true then his teachings are sound!
Find out what he says about faith considering it we a symbol of his blood!

lori milne · Mar 27, 2015

The false idea that “once under grace, we are already saved” is not founded upon scripture. Grace is God’s willingness to forgive past sins, as summarized in Ephesians 1:7: “…in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.”

BryanW92 · Mar 27, 2015

lori milne said:
The false idea that “once under grace, we are already saved” is not founded upon scripture. Grace is God’s willingness to forgive past sins, as summarized in Ephesians 1:7: “…in whom we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace.”

Who do you know that does not sin? Have you become sinless?

lori milne · Mar 27, 2015

BryanW92 said:
Who do you know that does not sin? Have you become sinless?

In Christ I can be

lori milne · Mar 27, 2015

BryanW92 said:
Who do you know that does not sin? Have you become sinless?

Notice the following: “…for it is GOD which works in you both to will and to do His good pleasure” (Phil. 2:13). God provides Christians with the WILLPOWER, FAITH OF CHRISTand MOTIVATION to do His good pleasure. God the Father and Jesus Christ have gone to great lengths to provide the grace—favor and divine mercy—to help Christians succeed in their calling. But they expect results! That is the message of Ephesians 2: “For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God has before ordained that we should walk in them

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 27, 2015

what is the difference for someone saying i sin but say sorry or i sin but i know jesus forgives me?

lori milne · Mar 27, 2015

thepromiseofgrace said:
what is the difference for someone saying i sin but say sorry or i sin but i know jesus forgives me?

The blood of Jesus forgives you when your truly repented! It's not either or ?

walkinginthelightnow · Mar 27, 2015

It's probably been said, but haven't read through the 20+ pages. But YES, you can fall short of the grace of God as said in Hebrews:

"Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;"

Esau fell from Grace, repentance was not found

Judas fell from Grace, committed suicide.

Saul fell from Grace, committed suicide. **NOTE** God said in Chronicles that he SLAYED him. Even though Saul took his own life, God took the credit for his suicide.

Hymenaeus made his faith shiprwreck

Demas loved this present world and forsook the faith. Maybe was sinning wilfully.

Hebrews 6:4 SCARY

Hebrews 10:26 very SCARY

1 John talks about the "sin unto death" by which prayers are not even suggested to be given for such a person.

Jesus said you can "lose your salt (savor)"

Jesus said, you can be "cut off" the vine (dead branch)

Paul said, KNOW YE NOT that Christ is in you, UNLESS you be a reprobate.

Being given over to your sin....shows you are rejected silver/reprobate. Romans 1.

I could go on and on, but YES you can fall from grace and fall short of God's grace. AT that point, you fall in the hands of God who is a consuming fire.

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 27, 2015

lori milne said:
The blood of Jesus forgives you when your truly repented! It's not either or ?

when have you truly repented?

thepromiseofgrace · Mar 27, 2015

walkinginthelightnow said:
It's probably been said, but haven't read through the 20+ pages. But YES, you can fall short of the grace of God as said in Hebrews:

"Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled;"

Esau fell from Grace, repentance was not found

Judas fell from Grace, committed suicide.

Saul fell from Grace, committed suicide. **NOTE** God said in Chronicles that he SLAYED him. Even though Saul took his own life, God took the credit for his suicide.

Hymenaeus made his faith shiprwreck

Demas loved this present world and forsook the faith. Maybe was sinning wilfully.

Hebrews 6:4 SCARY

Hebrews 10:26 very SCARY

1 John talks about the "sin unto death" by which prayers are not even suggested to be given for such a person.

Jesus said you can "lose your salt (savor)"

Jesus said, you can be "cut off" the vine (dead branch)

Paul said, KNOW YE NOT that Christ is in you, UNLESS you be a reprobate.

Being given over to your sin....shows you are rejected silver/reprobate. Romans 1.

I could go on and on, but YES you can fall from grace and fall short of God's grace. AT that point, you fall in the hands of God who is a consuming fire.

what scripture says a believer can lose their salvation.

Can we fall from grace ?

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