CAN sickness glorify God?

[JimB]

I would like to amend the subject of the thread that asks “Does sickness glorify God?” by asking, “CAN sickness glorify God?” Ever? Why?/Why not?

~Jim

 

[ProAmerican]

I would like to amend the subject of the thread that asks “Does sickness glorify God?” by asking, “CAN sickness glorify God?” Ever? Why?/Why not?

~Jim

Paul the Apostle stated in the Word that he would glory in his infirmities, that the power of Christ would rest upon him. If one takes a look at the Greek word for infirmities in those(2 Cor. 12:1-10)passages, one can readily see that it can refer to sickness of the body.

If Paul the Apostle learned to glorify God, despite the potential physical sickness that he was enduring, than we can, too.

Hebrews chapter 11 gives a list of the 'heros' of faith, and the 'heros' there can be divided into two groups. Those who had overcoming faith, and those who had enduring faith. Both kinds of faith are equally precious to God. The Word even states that the trial of our faith is very precious in God's sight.

 

[JimB]

Paul the Apostle stated in the Word that he would glory in his infirmities, that the power of Christ would rest upon him. If one takes a look at the Greek word for infirmities in those(2 Cor. 12:1-10)passages, one can readily see that it can refer to sickness of the body.

If Paul the Apostle learned to glorify God, despite the potential physical sickness that he was enduring, than we can, too.

Hebrews chapter 11 gives a list of the 'heros' of faith, and the 'heros' there can be divided into two groups. Those who had overcoming faith, and those who had enduring faith. Both kinds of faith are equally precious to God. The Word even states that the trial of our faith is very precious in God's sight.

Excellent, ProAm. It seems everyone knows what an ‘infirmity’ is except those who just don’t want to know. The word in the scriptures referenced in your link is ‘astheneia’ which means (according to Strong):

astheneia - “want of strength, weakness, infirmity of the body 1). its native weakness and frailty 2). feebleness of health or sickness.”

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~Jim

 

[lismore]

I would like to amend the subject of the thread that asks “Does sickness glorify God?” by asking, “CAN sickness glorify God?” Ever? Why?/Why not?

~Jim

Hi there

I dont think either sickness or healing glorify God in themselves.

In explanation:

Luke 17:
Ten Healed of Leprosy

11Now on his way to Jerusalem, Jesus traveled along the border between Samaria and Galilee. 12As he was going into a village, ten men who had leprosy[a]met him. They stood at a distance 13and called out in a loud voice, "Jesus, Master, have pity on us!"


14When he saw them, he said, "Go, show yourselves to the priests." And as they went, they were cleansed.

15One of them, when he saw he was healed, came back, praising God in a loud voice. 16He threw himself at Jesus' feet and thanked him—and he was a Samaritan. 17Jesus asked, "Were not all ten cleansed? Where are the other nine? 18Was no one found to return and give praise to God except this foreigner?" 19Then he said to him, "Rise and go; your faith has made you well."


What gave glory to God was the attitude of the thankful man who came back and thanked Jesus. The others was just a case of casting the pearls before swine. 9 healings that brought zilch.

Sickness does not glorify God, but you may meet a sick person who gives more glory to God than a well person, despite their sickness. Such a person will make the gospel seem attractive and will draw people to Jesus- this is glorifying God. Praising God through the circumstances and not just because of the circumstances is a sign of strong faith- like Paul and Silas in the prison.
To put it mildly- they were sitting with their backs lacerated in a rat infested hole of the wicked Roman Empire- but what brought glory to God was their hearts and their attitude of praising God and praying despite the appearances. And look- the jailor got saved and all the other prisoners possibly too they were sitting listening and then they didnt run off- why worry? God could open the doors again.

Did God 'use' this torture Paul and Silas went through to open a door into this city? - YES!

Could God have instigated this torture to put Paul and Silas into the place with the divine appointments? Perhaps so! At the very least he used it.

We glorify God by how we use what he has given us and where he has put us, not by ignoring where he has put us.

 

[Evee]

It is the hard times in our lives that convince us of our spiritual weakness not the blessings.
God doesn't create these difficulties.. but he works through them in his love and wisdom knowing the end.
Some are thankful for difficulties.
Where does the scriptures say I am strong through my weaknesses?
Though I am weak yet I am strong.
Something to that effect.

 

[Trish1947]

What does the word "glorify" mean?

 

[walkin2e]

Two examples from scripture:


John 9 verse 3 "Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him." (This was the man born blind that Jesus healed).

John 11 verse 4 "When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby." (the story of Lazarus)

walkin2e

 

[Evee]

Glorify is for worship and praise.
I can worship God through my sicknesses.

 

[Evee]

Not that I want to be sick mind you but if I am I can still worship God.

 

[LittleRocketBoy]

This does not answer the question.
Who is being glorified when they are faithful through trials?
God or the faithful?

The one being "faithful" is the one who recieves the glory.

You quoted the verse then unconcously changed it from Paul to God.

You pointed out in your post:

Paul the Apostle stated in the Word that he would glory in his infirmities, that the power of Christ would rest upon him. If one takes a look at the Greek word for infirmities in those(2 Cor. 12:1-10)passages, one can readily see that it can refer to sickness of the body.

If Paul the Apostle learned to glorify God, despite the potential physical sickness that he was enduring, than we can, too.

Hebrews chapter 11 gives a list of the 'heros' of faith, and the 'heros' there can be divided into two groups. Those who had overcoming faith, and those who had enduring faith. Both kinds of faith are equally precious to God. The Word even states that the trial of our faith is very precious in God's sight.

 

[Evee]

John 11-4
But when Jesus heard it, he said, This sickness is not to death, but for the glory of God, that God's Son may be glorified by it.
So maybe there is glorification for God and the person especially if they are healed.

 

[psalms 91]

Good point Evee the glory was because of the healing. Slowly we are adding more and more threads on this subject once again. I guess some dont want this to die down.

 

[FireOfGod]

No... Cancer in itself, the actual sickness, virus, disease, whatever, cannot. It makes the person that it is inhabiting suffer, miserable, in pain, and just plain sick.

Then, there is healing of a disease, which I believe Evee is talking about. When someone is sick, and God does some miraculous work in one's body. But that is healing, not sickness. Big difference.

I think by saying "sickness" we actually mean the disease/virus, because that is what sickness is. There are other things in it that can glorify God. Like someone's attitude towards the whole thing, or healing and maybe some others.

 

[LeeS]

Sickness does not glorify anything but itself. According to scripture GOD WORKS ALL THINGS TOGETHER FOR GOOD, not sickness works everything together for good.

 

[Evee]

Sickness does not glorify anything but itself. According to scripture GOD WORKS ALL THINGS TOGETHER FOR GOOD, not sickness works everything together for good.

So are you saying God uses sickness to bring all things together for the good?
Some people declare they are closer to God during their sickness.

 

[justinstout]

I would like to amend the subject of the thread that asks “Does sickness glorify God?” by asking, “CAN sickness glorify God?” Ever? Why?/Why not?

~Jim

It never did anywhere in the New Covenant.


If you think it did, then I challenge you to show me where.

 

[justinstout]

So are you saying God uses sickness to bring all things together for the good?
Some people declare they are closer to God during their sickness.

Some people probably claim that they are "closer to God" during sin... so what?

 

[ProAmerican]

This does not answer the question.
Who is being glorified when they are faithful through trials?
God or the faithful?

The one being "faithful" is the one who recieves the glory.

You quoted the verse then unconcously changed it from Paul to God.

You pointed out in your post:

Um, no I didn't unconsciously change it from Paul to God, and I'd like for you to show me where I did.

If you are commenting on that line where you highlighted it in red, where I gave the word Word, then you have misread it. I was speaking of the Word of God, or the Bible.

Sometimes I capitalize it and type Word, but I am not referring to our Lord, Jesus Christ, like in John 1:1, where it says "in the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God."

If I confused you, sorry.

 

[Svt4Him]

Nope.

 

[oworm]

I would like to amend the subject of the thread that asks “Does sickness glorify God?” by asking, “CAN sickness glorify God?” Ever? Why?/Why not?

It never did anywhere in the New Covenant.


If you think it did, then I challenge you to show me where.

JN 9:1-3 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. His disciples asked him, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
"Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.