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I didn't say they are not a Christian. I said I understand why people question it. That people in fact question it is something this person has said themselves in this thread. This explains, why. Not because they are pro-choice, but because they deny fundamental Biblical truths.It's against the rules of this site to suggest that a person is not a Christian if they have said they are a Christian.
For real? This is your position?
Only Adam and Eve were made in the image of God? You said before that people questioned whether you are actually a Christian because of this topic. This would explain why. This is heresy.
That might be a fact to you or someone who's pro abortion, but it isn't to me. What is the Christian basis for this belief?No, that is a fact. The definition of baby has always been a BORN human being less than one year old.
It's asking if humans were made in the image of God. Don't sidestep it.Except for Jesus, only Adam and Eve were made biologically perfect.
That might me a fact to you or someone who's pro abortion, but it isn't to me. What is the Christian basis for this belief?
If you think that you can define yourself into victory you aren't approaching this conversation in the sort of good faith you wanted in your original post. Is there a Christian basis for thinking that a baby ten minutes before birth can be aborted and a baby ten minutes before birth is a sacred human being worthy of some protections in society?A fact is true information for everyone, not opinionated in any way. You want to make facts opinions, which is obviously impossible.
It's asking if humans were made in the image of God. Don't sidestep it.
If you think that you can define yourself into victory you aren't approaching this conversation in the sort of good faith you wanted in your original post. Is there a Christian basis for thinking that a baby ten minutes before birth can be aborted and a baby ten minutes before birth is a sacred human being worthy of some protections in society?
Being made in God's image has nothing to do with being perfect. How do you explain James 3:9? It's clearly not talking about Adam, Eve and Jesus.Except for Jesus, only Adam and Eve were made biologically perfect.
There is no such thing as an unborn baby.
Social protections are based on whether a human being is born or not. That is a fact, not my opinion.
At no time did I ever remotely suggest any fetus in the woman's birth canal should be aborted. In fact, I have stated many times that should never happen.
What if the baby ten minutes before birth isn't in the birth canal but still in the womb? It can be aborted then without any guilt right?
Then what would be wrong with aborting it ten minutes before birth?There is no such thing as an unborn baby. How many times do I need to say that?
I never want to debate abortion with people who disagree with me on the issue because it just goes around in circles, with "pro-lifers" wrongly accusing pro-choicers of murdering babies (which is obviously a lie) and pro-choicers calling pro-lifers misogynists who only care about controlling girls and women. In rape and incest cases, the latter is true, but most claims I read from both sides of the issue are incorrect unless people are just talking about Psalms 139, Job 10, and child development. I want to know if there is any way people can just agree to disagree on when abortion is only for convenience, when fetuses in the womb are viable, and how women should get rid of unwanted babies they can't take care of. There is no reason to doubt someone is a Christian just because he or she disagrees on this one issue, whatever the opinion differences are. I want to be able to trade views about a Christian issue without a fear that someone will deny my faith in God. I know everyone who reads God's Word would feel the same way, whether the issue is abortion or something else.
So instead of debating whether abortion is right or wrong and on what basis, I want to see if people are able to have a friendly discussion on the topic that does not devolve into crap such as, "You are not a Christian," or stupid name-calling.
what's an Opinion is these ideas on what is a 'life'A fact is true information for everyone, not opinionated in any way. You want to make facts opinions, which is obviously impossible.
That's a lie.There is no such thing as an unborn baby. How many times do I need to say that?
No, that is a fact. The definition of baby has always been a BORN human being less than one year old.
So what's your take on late term abortion? Do you know there is no limit any more? A doctor can remove a fetus and if the abortion didn't kill it, they leave it on the operating table to die. This stuff is for real and happens across the U.S. ... perhaps more people need to open their eyes to the truth of what's really going on in the world right now.Everyone knows abortion is not murdering babies.
If you want to get mad at people for supporting infanticide, talk to those who actually do it. Nobody wants doctors to kill babies.
And what is the percentage of married women who abort pregnancies within the confines of marriage with their husband as compared to unmarried women who abort after having consensual, casual sex with strangers? You are talking about God creating marriage, which includes procreation, but you deny he has the right over who lives and who dies before us? Makes no sense.Here is something to think about: Many women who do use contraception often get pregnant anyway. No contraception method is perfect except abstinence. Sexual intercourse is a completely natural act God made for married men and women. Do you think people only do it if they plan to raise children? Or did God make adults sexually active for other reasons, such as bonding in their intimate relationships? And do you know any married women who are celibate? Until a flawless contraception exists, there will be unwanted human beings because celibacy is not realistic or what God intended.
Then what would be wrong with aborting it ten minutes before birth?
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