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And in which scripture does Jesus explicitly state He is God, or for that matter the Holy Spirit?
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And in which scripture does Jesus explicitly state He is God, or for that matter the Holy Spirit?Jesus often spoke of himself along with the Father and the Holy Spirit, Baptise in the name of...... etc.
Off the top of my head, Jesus told the Pharisees he was the "I AM." They understood his meaning.And in which scripture does Jesus explicitly state He is God, or for that matter the Holy Spirit?
Apart from them He never did, etc...And in which scripture does Jesus explicitly state He is God, or for that matter the Holy Spirit?
He did not say He was "The I AM," He said "before Abraham was, I am."Off the top of my head, Jesus told the Pharisees he was the "I AM." They understood his meaning.
but the question is do we need full understanding of Christ before we come to him. Again I refer back to the initial call of the disciples of simply "follow me" the same "follow me" invitation that was given to a Muslim who had no knowledge of Christ outside of the Quran yet he made a choice to follow Christ, first as a saviour then later as the Son of God because this choice to follow Christ let to a revelation that only the Father can give, not unlike the revelation given to Peter.No, we do not need prior knowledge of Jesus before we come to him. Remember Jesus and the little children. No knowledge there. First we come to Christ, and we feed on the milk, then the strong meat follows. Blessings.
He is before and after all things, or other beings, in and or through Him were all things made, or were ever caused to become to be or exist, etc... Apart from him nothing exists, nor can exist, etc...He did not say He was "The I AM," He said "before Abraham was, I am."
How can it be concluded this scripture proclaims Jesus as God?
scriptureNone.
So your claim is true according to...?
The Pharisees understood that was what Jesus was claiming.He is before and after all things, or other beings, in and or through Him were all things made, or were ever caused to become to be or exist, etc... Apart from him nothing exists, nor can exist, etc...
Anyway,
God Bless!
But was He God the Father...?He is before and after all things, or other beings, in and or through Him were all things made, or were ever caused to become to be or exist, etc... Apart from him nothing exists, nor can exist, etc...
Anyway,
God Bless!
What scriptures?scripture
DO you believe the Trinity doctrine set forth in the Ecumenical Creeds as being true?What scriptures?
My answer, which you have there in front of you, is NO we do not need prior knowledge of Jesus before coming to him.but the question is do we need full understanding of Christ before we come to him. Again I refer back to the initial call of the disciples of simply "follow me" the same "follow me" invitation that was given to a Muslim who had no knowledge of Christ outside of the Quran yet he made a choice to follow Christ, first as a saviour then later as the Son of God because this choice to follow Christ let to a revelation that only the Father can give, not unlike the revelation given to Peter.
If not the examples of the disciples then pick any person in the gospels that comes to Christ.
The Father will draw you to Him (Jesus) way long before full knowledge a lot of the time, etc...My answer, which you have there in front of you, is NO we do not need prior knowledge of Jesus before coming to him.
you're right, I miss read it. thanks for the correctionMy answer, which you have there in front of you, is NO we do not need prior knowledge of Jesus before coming to him.
Those who study and reject the trinity do not know Christ.Does a person have to have a full and accurate and true genuine complete full knowledge, or knowing or understanding of your Trinity before they can be saved...?
And seeing as you won't even ask some of the most minor questions about it, greatly increases my doubts that you have a full and 100% complete and/or accurate genuine and 100% true understanding about it at all either...
Jesus did not say He is the Trinity, ect, was not part of The, or His own testimony about Himself ever, etc, biblically, etc, so how can your view of the Trinity be 100% totally Biblical, (cause it's not, etc)...
Said that God was a Trinity, and that He was God, but not that He was the Trinity, etc...
Anyway,
God Bless!
Do you mean those who have onced studied and have come to full knowledge of the trinity, but then reject It or Him or Them, have not come to know Christ yet, etc...?Those who study and reject the trinity do not know Christ.
Can a false Christ save?Do you mean those who have onced studied and have come to full knowledge of the trinity, but then reject It or Him or Them, have not come to know Christ yet, etc...?
And if so, is it always required, etc...? in all and every single case, etc...?
God Bless!
Does one have to always come to, or always have a full knowledge, or a 100% knowing and full knowledge, and complete full revelation of God, before they can be saved...?Can a false Christ save?
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