Can marriage ever be a sin if both are Christian

mikeforjesus · Aug 15, 2022

I believe if I have ability to do good I should to marry as it could help me have helper to do more and that I should because otherwise people look down because I seem like I failed and if I don’t live fruitful life as I could it looks bad so I will seek to marry as I thought it would be more useful not to but now I do not think it may not be and worse not to help.

mikeforjesus · Aug 17, 2022

I did believe it important to marry to show others that I can find someone to not fail to show them that I am able to find that God will support me to show I can so they do not think they have power to control others to show I will not allow them to affect others hope if I can show God does not support if I am accepted I don’t think I need to prove that for obviously it is wrong from them not to accept me being the cause not to find someone and I believe I should not seek to get married to insist on finding one for the sake to testify to what is most important and to show care for others to not make their life seem less important and I should only get married if God has shown me that He believes it is good path for me to follow. But I should focus on my faith and seeking to grow in my relationship with God to be able to have strength to reach more for gospel.

mikeforjesus · Aug 25, 2022

I believe I should seek to marry as people like to take advantage of my struggles to contend for the faith as reason to put down my faith when they see I am alone to think God does not care for me but if I had children I could show I won’t let them take advantage to make it seem I am alone without God support so I will seek to find one to be open to marriage to one if I find it is not against the Lord will if we have asked the Lord and He does not show it is not His will to be wrong.

mikeforjesus · Sep 5, 2022

I decided I will not seek to marry unless I know Christ clearly said to me if there is no doubt He spoke to me that He thinks it good as I think it may be better not to to show care for others if that will help more when they see I don’t care just for myself that I had the chance to have children to help witness and to focus on doing so to witness

mikeforjesus · Sep 10, 2022

Actually I don’t believe it will help to be single as I believe I would do more as married that God did not show me what to do to be single I would do more and people take advantage of my singleness so I will seek to marry if I find for even if I am single I don’t believe people value if I am not doing much and people who follow churches still speak bad as though it only matters if you are taking a religious vocation following church.

Marumorose · Sep 10, 2022

mikeforjesus said:
The bible says as it was in the days of Noah they were marrying and giving in marriage and did not know until the flood came and took them all away so it will be when the son of man returns

In the days of Noah marriage was a sin because sons of God married daughters of men that is the non spiritual people

I thought marriage is never a sin if person is Christian as Paul said he who marries has not sinned but such will have trouble in the flesh

But could it be a sin if the other person possibility may not be a true Christian if they are not of similar background to atleast be born in Christian family though it is possible one is a Christian if one is not

What other situations is it a sin ?

But how can it take them by surprise if Christ will come after the tribulation do you think some will not even believe they are in the tribulation because how then can it take them by surprise ?

My dad says when Paul says in the last days people will forbid marriage it means because people will live together without getting married I don’t think however it is necessary to get married and have kids you may not raise in God if one is not spiritual but this means people should not sin and if they do they must repent

I am convinced now that I should not marry because it may not work out my father thought it was good for me though I don’t have to and my grandfather
my dads father told me before he died he wanted me to get married but my father said I don’t have to listen to him if I thought it was good and I was able to do something for the Lord I would think to get married but I think being single is being more profitable for the Lord the barren has more children than one who is married because you should not make people feel they have to get married which being single is maybe more safe and good for some and you don’t know if you will meet one suitable

unless I am convinced being married is good if I meet one suitable I don’t think I should get married

May God Bless You. Any romantic relationship outside marriage is Sinful and any child conceived outside marriage is Cursed. Marriage is the only union between a man and woman that is recognised in heaven. Marriage is Not a sin but it can be corrupted If two people are getting married for their own earthly selfish desires. It is also a sin to choose NOT to get married because we have to be fruitful and multiply!

mikeforjesus · Sep 10, 2022

Thankyou but I don’t think it is a sin to choose not to get married though you may be less productive and God wants one to be productive to be fruitful and multiply. Also I do not seek a romantic relationship outside of marriage or to have children outside of marriage I do believe such children are cursed initially to show parents their sin and if they are not repentant as they would not have stable family but God would not keep them cursed for another sin if they do not allow their parents choices to influence them to follow God themselves.

mikeforjesus · Sep 11, 2022

I believe actually it would not be good to marry to show I care for others for them not to think what is only important that people have succeeded in world to have children but that what is important is for soul to be saved so I will not seek to marry

mikeforjesus · Sep 12, 2022

I believe rather I should seek to marry as Christian’s should be fruitful and multiply but that does not mean I think it is a sin to be single just you would not be able to be productive to increase Christian’s though you can still serve God but you may not be as productive to do much without a partner if you do not see a greater way you can serve God as single and if you do not find that you can be as productive as single if no one supports what you believe or does not seek to really build you up or support you to be able to serve God if you don’t have same beliefs as them about what is needed to believe to be Christian that is the gospel and for those not content to be single if they don’t have gift to accept it as better to be single to not struggle Paul says it is better for them to marry than burn with passion. But it is not sin to be single but it is harder to be alone and Paul says people should marry if they won’t control themselves because sex outside of marriage is sin

mikeforjesus · Sep 13, 2022

I decided not to marry to seek to focus on serving so others can not accuse I only care for my own interests who think that though I have right and to look for church which really serves Jesus to support all and helps others to mature to be effective to serve others to reach them for gospel

Strong in Him · Sep 23, 2022

Marumorose said:
It is also a sin to choose NOT to get married because we have to be fruitful and multiply!

Sorry; no.
We don't HAVE to be fruitful and multiply; if we did, then all Christian women would be able to have children.

We don't even have to get married.
Did Mother Teresa sin when she didn't marry but went to help the poor in Calcutta? Others have chosen not to marry to devote themselves to serving God. St Paul wasn't married, nor did he have children.

A child who is born to unmarried parents is not cursed. It was not their fault or choice.
Mary and Joseph weren't married when Jesus was conceived - maybe not even when he was born.

mikeforjesus · Oct 16, 2022

I decided for the sake of the gospel to sacrifice my rights perhaps through my sacrifice God will have mercy and others will benefit as I have much already that it is enough to be content though it would not be sin. I think that is better to not be distracted to focus on serving the Lord

Strong in Him · Oct 18, 2022

mikeforjesus said:
I decided for the sake of the gospel to sacrifice my rights

I wasn't going to get involved in this thread again, but I'm afraid that this is wrong.
None of us has a right to be married.
We may very much want to be, tell God we would love to be and ask him to show us who to marry. But a wise Christian will ask God if they should be married, and if not, will he help them to accept being single.
We can't become Christians, declare Jesus to be Lord and then tell him what we are going, and have a right, to do. In fact, I read in a book once that as we have put to death our old nature and been crucified with Christ we are dead - and dead people have no rights.

mikeforjesus said:
perhaps through my sacrifice God will have mercy

God has mercy because he is merciful and because of Jesus - not because we may have given up something which we, mistakenly, think will please him.
We can't do anything to please God - at least, not in the sense of persuading him to be kind or merciful to us or save us. Nor can we bargain with him; "if I do something for you, will you do something for me?"

mikeforjesus said:
and others will benefit as I have much already that it is enough to be content though it would not be sin. I think that is better to not be distracted to focus on serving the Lord

If you think that marriage would be a distraction and you would not be able to serve God, then don't do it.
If you think that it would be good to have a wife and the two of you, together, serve God, then talk to him about it.
I've noticed that in several posts you worry about what other people will think - it's nothing to do with anyone else. If you're trying to decide on marriage, the most important people to consider are, God - is this what he's asking you to do? Your girlfriend - is the relationship that serious and does she want to be in a relationship with you forever, and your own feelings. All 11 pages of this thread seem to be about you trying to make up your mind, for yourself, and to find out what God wants. But you can't get married without a girlfriend. If you have one, what does she think about it? Does she know about this thread and that you've spent much time writing "I'm not going to marry .... yes, I think I will ...... no, it's best not to?" Sorry, but if it were me I would not want someone so indecisive.
If you don't have a girlfriend then, as I've said before, everything might change if you get one and fall in love.

mikeforjesus · Oct 18, 2022

It is wrong the bible says in last days people will forbid marriage. You are supporting that to help those who try to make excuse for their evil to reject one without cause for God never said some people must not marry if they will to. But people have been made eunuch by men and those are only encouraged to accept to be eunuch if they would not prefer to marry that they do not believe it is good thing for them or they are willing to accept to believe not to do is better for sake of serving the kingdom Christ encourages it. Just because I struggle to know if it is best decision does not mean any woman should take that as I am not interested in them or I am not fit. A woman who wants to be put first above God is a bad one if she is not willing to accept me to understand my struggles and looks down on me for my struggles she is not a good woman. I put God first before others but if I seek a relationship with person I believe character is most attractive thing of person otherwise or I would only be attracted to first appearances as I would not be able to see them for more than that.

Strong in Him · Oct 18, 2022

mikeforjesus said:
It is wrong the bible says in last days people will forbid marriage.

It's clearly not wrong - thousands of Christian couples get married, and are married.

The Bible does not say that "people will forbid marriage" - and we don't know that we are in the last days anyway.

mikeforjesus said:
You are supporting that to help those who try to make excuse for their evil

I'm not helping anyone make an excuse for anything.
Jesus himself said that a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and what God has joined together, man should not separate, Mark 10:7-8. Mary and Joseph eventually married. Most people did - having a child outside of marriage was frowned upon, and people have children so that the human race will continue.

mikeforjesus said:
Just because I struggle to know if it is best decision does not mean any woman should take that as I am not interested in them or I am not fit.

I never said it did.
I said that I, personally, would not be drawn to someone who was so undecided about what they wanted from our own, private, relationship.
As I've said before - get into a relationship, see how it goes and how you get along, talk to her about where the two of you are going; then pay about it.

mikeforjesus said:
I put God first before others but if I seek a relationship with person I believe character is most attractive thing of person otherwise or I would only be attracted to first appearances as I would not be able to see them for more than that.

Absolutely.
All I am, and have been, saying is that if you need to ask a load of strangers whether or not you should get married, you're maybe not ready to make that decision.

You have said, above, that it is wrong, and yet you keep changing your mind - sometimes twice in one day. I understand people struggling, but if you don't even have a girlfriend yet, it's hypothetical at the moment.
If marriage is wrong for you, it is wrong for you. Don't stress about it, focus on serving God as a single person, live your life - but be open to what may happen in the future.
If marriage might be right for you; either talk to your girlfriend and then do it, if she agrees. Or try to find a girlfriend and be honest with her from the start that that is what you want.

mikeforjesus · Oct 24, 2022

I know I should not insist on marriage I don’t mind to be single if He wills but I thought marriage would help to show others that I will not let others put me down for my beliefs that I do not have and they did as though following my beliefs makes me unworthy unlike them to have or for them to take advantage to mock and to do more and what does it profit if Christ spoke to me if He did though it is possible He did not but gave me ability to dream to allow my thoughts to turn into dream to process things and to recall things which are helpful which He may have and yet does treat me with hate to allow even Christian’s to reject me to not discipline them to make them consider me which I do not care as long as I knew Christ accepts me that I am ready to be saved

Mark Quayle · Oct 24, 2022

mikeforjesus said:
I know I should not insist on marriage I don’t mind to be single if He wills but I thought marriage would help to show others that I will not let others put me down for my beliefs that I do not have and they did as though following my beliefs makes me unworthy unlike them to have or for them to take advantage to mock and to do more and what does it profit if Christ spoke to me if He did though it is possible He did not but gave me ability to dream to allow my thoughts to turn into dream to process things and to recall things which are helpful which He may have and yet does treat me with hate to allow even Christian’s to reject me to not discipline them to make them consider me which I do not care as long as I knew Christ accepts me that I am ready to be saved

If God exists, this life is not about us, but about HIM. We are here for his use, which is a HUGE privilege. You will never be worthy for what Christ has done for you. That isn't even the point. Christ is the point of it all.

mikeforjesus · Oct 25, 2022

Ofcourse one is not worthy but I don't know if I am required to do works I know I can do whatever even if He did not show me clearly which is hard to want to without assurance I am doing all He wants me to do. I am not trying to say we are saved by our works but it is required if you are true follower that you will obey Him to do what you can that you know as Jesus said why do you call Me Lord Lord and not do what I say?

Strong in Him · Oct 25, 2022

mikeforjesus said:
I know I should not insist on marriage I don’t mind to be single if He wills but I thought marriage would help to show others that I will not let others put me down for my beliefs

Marriage - and in fact your whole life - should not be about other people.
I know we tend to care what they think of us and want them to think well of us - but it's your life. They cannot live your life.
Please don't let people put you down in anything.
You have a right to your beliefs, your gifts.
You have a right to live your life however God leads you to live it.
If he wants you to marry - you and your wife will serve him together in whichever way you feel is right.
If he wants you to remain single - you have a right to do that because it is what he has called you to do.

Mark Quayle · Oct 25, 2022

mikeforjesus said:
Ofcourse one is not worthy but I don't know if I am required to do works I know I can do whatever even if He did not show me clearly which is hard to want to without assurance I am doing all He wants me to do. I am not trying to say we are saved by our works but it is required if you are true follower that you will obey Him to do what you can that you know as Jesus said why do you call Me Lord Lord and not do what I say?

I have made many, some huge, mistakes, but I'm glad I went through the results, not because they taught me the urgency of obedience, nor the need for 'knowing the will of God' but because they were necessary for me to come to know God better. I found out that this life is about him, not me. Being wise will avoid many heartaches and troubles, but doing your best in spite of incomplete information from God is very often the route God has planned for us.

There is security in this, because there is nothing that escapes God's decree. He will bring about EVERYTHING he has planned concerning his own. It may not be temporally fun, but it can be temporally full of joy in knowing that God is doing this.

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