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LDS Can LDS add teachings to the word of God?

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I can quote the Bible too:

(New Testament | 1 Corinthians 8:5 - 6)

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

(New Testament | John 20:17)

17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.

(Old Testament | Genesis 1:26)

26 ¶ And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

(Old Testament | Genesis 3:22)

22 ¶ And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

(New Testament | John 10:30)

30 I and my Father are one.

Unfortunately your church and extra biblical scripture take precedence.

"This Church is the ensign on the mountain spoken of by the Old Testament prophets. It is the way, the truth, and the life. "
Marion G. Romney, Conference Report, April, 1961, p. 119

Therefore it was made clearly manifest that salvation is in the Church, and of the Church, and is obtained only through the Church.
Mark E. Petersen, Salvation Comes through the Church, Ensign, July 1973
 
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I have already responded to Joseph Smith's revelations. One wife is for Bishops. God decides who takes more than one wife and when it will be allowed. Joseph Smith was trying to save his brother Hyrum and others in the room with him. However, Hyrum was also murdered. Willard Richards only had his left ear grazed by a bullet, which fulfilled a prophecy Joseph had made more than a year before that “the time would come that the balls would fly around him like hail, and he should see his friends fall on the right and on the left, but that there should not be a hole in his garment” (in History of the Church, 6:619).

Jesus chooses His judges.

Bishops elders and so on--one wife---JS would have had no office at all with more than one wife.
Jesus already chose His judges---the 12. And Jesus did not say that no one could enter into His presence unless a particular person allowed it. We will judge angels--obviously not the angels that never fell. And it is not that we get to decide anything -- it is that we can acknowledge the judgements of God as just.
The decision of who is saved and who is not is made by Jesus and when He is done in the Heavenly sanctuary as the High Priest. Time will be up and everyone's decision will have been made--

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev_22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
 
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LDS Scripture:

Book of Mormon
Doctrine and Covenants
Pearl of Great Price
KJV Bible (as far as translated correctly)


I told the brethren that the Book of Mormon was the most correct of any book on earth, and the keystone of our religion, and a man would get nearer to God by abiding by its precepts, than by any other book.
Joseph Smith, History of the Church, 4:461
 
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Bishops elders and so on--one wife---JS would have had no office at all with more than one wife.
Jesus already chose His judges---the 12. And Jesus did not say that no one could enter into His presence unless a particular person allowed it. We will judge angels--obviously not the angels that never fell. And it is not that we get to decide anything -- it is that we can acknowledge the judgements of God as just.
The decision of who is saved and who is not is made by Jesus and when He is done in the Heavenly sanctuary as the High Priest. Time will be up and everyone's decision will have been made--
Who made you the spokesman/decision maker?

Rev 22:11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rev_22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

That is a great scripture.
 
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Who made you the spokesman/decision maker?



That is a great scripture.

God gave the scriptures---that makes us decision makers---BASED ON HIS WORD. You base yours on the writings of JS and keep his commandments---not the commandments of God.
 
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As soon as an LDS missionary comes to my door, I know that what they have to say will have no relevance to the Word of God. I invite them in, offer them a drink, and share basic Christian truths with them until they decide to call it quits and leave. I don't expect them to convert to Christianity overnight, but at least there some ideas in their heads that the Holy Spirit can use to gradually bring them home.
 
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As soon as an LDS missionary comes to my door, I know that what they have to say will have no relevance to the Word of God. I invite them in, offer them a drink, and share basic Christian truths with them until they decide to call it quits and leave. I don't expect them to convert to Christianity overnight, but at least there some ideas in their heads that the Holy Spirit can use to gradually bring them home.
That is nice of you to invite them in for a drink and discussion. I appreciated that when I was on my mission.
 
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God gave the scriptures---that makes us decision makers---BASED ON HIS WORD. You base yours on the writings of JS and keep his commandments---not the commandments of God.
No mmksparbud, we very seldom base our discussion on the commandments of JS. They are based on Bible commandments. Again, you get it wrong.

If we were to supplement our discussion of Biblical commandments with the words of JS, you would bellyhoo more than you do. So we don't, and even straight from the Bible you have a problem.
 
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No mmksparbud, we very seldom base our discussion on the commandments of JS. They are based on Bible commandments. Again, you get it wrong.

If we were to supplement our discussion of Biblical commandments with the words of JS, you would bellyhoo more than you do. So we don't, and even straight from the Bible you have a problem.

I have no problem with straight from the bible. But the point is, you say one thing and believe another.
Keeping the commandments does not mean straight from the bible for you have added to the bible commandments with your own that all Mormons must adhere to or they can not enter the presence of God. The 10 certainly never mentioned having to be a priest.
 
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God gave the scriptures---that makes us decision makers---BASED ON HIS WORD. You base yours on the writings of JS and keep his commandments---not the commandments of God.
Do you believe in keeping God's commandments?

(New Testament | Matthew 5:16 - 48)

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
33 ¶ Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
 
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Do you believe in keeping God's commandments?

(New Testament | Matthew 5:16 - 48)

16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.
17 ¶ Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
21 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.
25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.
27 ¶ Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:
28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.
29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut if off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.
31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.
33 ¶ Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
38 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
42 Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
43 ¶ Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Of course---but not your commandments. God never mentioned the priesthood as a commandment.
 
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Of course---but not your commandments. God never mentioned the priesthood as a commandment.
Did I say God mentioned the priesthood as a commandment? If a person can repent, LOVE Jesus and keep the commandments He gave to everyone in the Bible, they will have no need to fear.
 
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Did I say God mentioned the priesthood as a commandment? If a person can repent, LOVE Jesus and keep the commandments He gave to everyone in the Bible, they will have no need to fear.

You didn't--your believes are a whole different story. God also never commanded marriage in order to be in His presence. Nor did the commandments say we have to do good in order to get in. I should say exaltation, to be accurate. We do good as a result of being saved, not in order to be saved.
 
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You didn't--your believes are a whole different story. God also never commanded marriage in order to be in His presence. Nor did the commandments say we have to do good in order to get in. I should say exaltation, to be accurate. We do good as a result of being saved, not in order to be saved.
This is what God said:

(New Testament | John 14:23)

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

This is the promise and God will not break His word. And as I have said many times "we are not saved by works, neither are we saved without works." Faith without works is dead faith and is not saving faith. Jesus explained what it takes to LOVE our neighbor and who our neighbor is. He said go and do likewise:

(New Testament | Luke 10:36 - 37)

36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

When Jesus said "he will keep my words" He meant it. Here is another great promise:

(New Testament | John 14:21)

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

And yet another:

(New Testament | John 14:15 - 16)

15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
 
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This is what God said:

(New Testament | John 14:23)

23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

This is the promise and God will not break His word. And as I have said many times "we are not saved by works, neither are we saved without works." Faith without works is dead faith and is not saving faith. Jesus explained what it takes to LOVE our neighbor and who our neighbor is. He said go and do likewise:

(New Testament | Luke 10:36 - 37)

36 Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37 And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise.

When Jesus said "he will keep my words" He meant it. Here is another great promise:

(New Testament | John 14:21)

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

And yet another:

(New Testament | John 14:15 - 16)

15 ¶ If ye love me, keep my commandments.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Have you kept them all?
  • 100% of them.
  • 100% of the time.

___ YES
___ NO
 
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Have you kept them all?
  • 100% of them.
  • 100% of the time.

___ YES
___ NO
This is a debate forum about gospel doctrine, not about personal worthiness. We read in the Bible that all have sinned except Jesus Christ who gave us the opportunity to repent and be forgiven of our sins through His proxy atonement. After we repent we should not return to our sins:

(New Testament | Romans 6:1 - 6)

1 WHAT shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

(New Testament | 2 Peter 2:20 - 22)

20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
 
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Unlike other organizations, we're not legalistic.

After learning of the questioning to get a temple recommend, I find this hard to believe.


It's literally an interview with pre-written questions about submitting to the authorities of your religion. How is this not legalism?
 
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