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Can God sin?

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Can God sin? Can God be an Author of Confusion? Can God promote sin? Are U.F.O dealings from God? Do U.F.O's bring confusion or Divine Heavenly Logic? Can God 'give' something to the world that will cause Confusion? If not, where does Confusion and the objects that cause Confusion come from? Science has said that everything can be shown either true or false through Empirical Evidence. God, I think, would Love to live among Empirical Truths. So the question of 'faith' arises. Perhaps 'faith' in Truth is more valuable that 'faith' in every thing possible, even those that bring about Confusion. 'Faith' in true outcomes of so called 'black magic' is of God or not of God? But regardless, it comes from 'faith.' And regardless, do those manifestations of so called 'dark magic' not exist and occur all around us?
 

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I am not quite sure what you are asking. Could you please be more specific on how black magic and u.f.os lead you to question if God can sin?
simple question.. Does ufo's exist? and if so from whom do they proceed?
for black magic... does black magic exist? and if there are true results proceeding from the practice of black magic, from whom does the outcome of the black magic come from?
 
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As far as the topic of ufos, I believe what the bible says in Genesis 6:1-4

1 When men began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the LORD said, "My Spirit will not contend with man forever, for he is mortal; his days will be a hundred and twenty years." 4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days and also afterward when the sons of God went to the daughters of men and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

I believe that aliens are actually fallen angels or their nephilim.

Now about the topic of black magic. Demons have power. When someone practices black magic they are calling upon demons to perform tasks for them. So the simple answer is yes, black magic does exist.
 
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simple question.. Does ufo's exist? and if so from whom do they proceed? for black magic... does black magic exist? and if there are true results proceeding from the practice of black magic, from whom does the outcome of the black magic come from?

Black Magic comes from Aliens using powers transmitted from their UFO's.
I thought everyone knew that already.
 
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Can God be an Author of Confusion?

Sure. Ya ought to read the bible.

8 So the LORD scattered them abroad from there over the face of the whole earth; and they stopped building the city.
9 Therefore its name was called Babel, because there the LORD confused the language of the whole earth; and from there the LORD scattered them abroad over the face of the whole earth.
 
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simple question.. Does ufo's exist? and if so from whom do they proceed?
for black magic... does black magic exist? and if there are true results proceeding from the practice of black magic, from whom does the outcome of the black magic come from?

UFO's are simply flying objects, that can not be identified. So yes, UFO's do exist.

Black magic, not so sure on that one.
 
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Can God sin? Can God be an Author of Confusion? Can God promote sin? Are U.F.O dealings from God? Do U.F.O's bring confusion or Divine Heavenly Logic? Can God 'give' something to the world that will cause Confusion? If not, where does Confusion and the objects that cause Confusion come from? Science has said that everything can be shown either true or false through Empirical Evidence. God, I think, would Love to live among Empirical Truths. So the question of 'faith' arises. Perhaps 'faith' in Truth is more valuable that 'faith' in every thing possible, even those that bring about Confusion. 'Faith' in true outcomes of so called 'black magic' is of God or not of God? But regardless, it comes from 'faith.' And regardless, do those manifestations of so called 'dark magic' not exist and occur all around us?

If sin is defined as disobedience to God, by definition God can't sin.
 
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If sin is defined as disobedience to God, by definition God can't sin.
But if you define sin by the various acts that are considered to be against god, such as wrath, and you consider god to be omnipotent, then not only is the god of the bible capable by definition of sinning, but has sinned in the context of the holy book.
 
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But if you define sin by the various acts that are considered to be against god, such as wrath, and you consider god to be omnipotent, then not only is the god of the bible capable by definition of sinning, but has sinned in the context of the holy book.

The problem with the above is that "God" carries certain definable attributes in terms of the "premise-concept". Thus, you'll always have "No true Scottsman" scenario because it's embedded in the definition itself.

I'd say that it's futile to discuss this subject for that reason.
 
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The problem with the above is that "God" carries certain definable attributes in terms of the "premise-concept". Thus, you'll always have "No true Scottsman" scenario because it's embedded in the definition itself.

I'd say that it's futile to discuss this subject for that reason.
All philosophy is futile if you want an end to the debate. The point of philosophy is the thought process, not really the various conclusions.
 
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All philosophy is futile if you want an end to the debate. The point of philosophy is the thought process, not really the various conclusions.

But there's no "duality" between the thought process and conclusions, given that one doesn't just jump to premise without some due thinking. Conclusions are a part of the thought process, but that's besides the point.

What I was trying to say is that philosophy is a form of "provisional science". Science tends to be rather strict on falsifiable concepts, but some things are out of reach of falsifiable and can only be discussed in some philosophical frameworks one builds.

The concept of God is structured as such framework and it rests on some trust and suspended disbelief.

It's sort of like watching a superhero flick. It would be rather pointless to go to a theater and exclaim "Oh, that's a load of ___" every time the hero does something unrealistic when it comes to what you see on the screen.

That's the same way with religion, if we learn to approach it with some degree of maturity. I think that most people, deep down, have their internal doubts about what they believe. But, religion provides some provisional narrative to things that we know little to nothing about. Trying to dismantle that narrative by "pocking holes in the plot"... is precisely your point about "thought process vs conclusions" when it comes to the scope of importance and what religion attempts to do.

When atheists do that, there's an overwhelming feeling of a guy in a movie theater screaming "Oh, that's a load of ___"
 
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