Can God reverse time?

AlexDTX said:

Yes. In Kings he turned back time 10 minutes to let Hezekiah know he would live another 15 years.

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NO!! This is not reversing time. This is simply the manipulation of light or photons.
A shadow is an absence of light in an otherwise lit area. God can simply remove or stop photons from hitting the surface concerned and presto, you have a shadow.

My second grade teacher went by the name of Ms Chickadance. If I could go back to those days I would have known to avoid a lot of trials and pitfalls along the way. In the Pilgrims Progress Christian and Hopeful take a journey through a valley and are caught by the Giant Despair and are thrown into the Doubting Castle, and to summarize their stay....

“Well, towards evening, the Giant goes down into the dungeon again, to see if his prisoners had taken his counsel; but when he came there he found them alive; and truly, alive was all; for now, what for want of bread and water, and by reason of the wounds they received when he beat them, they could do little but breathe. But, I say, he found them alive; at which he fell into a grievous rage, and told them that, seeing they had disobeyed his counsel (that they should take their life and die) it should be worse with them than if they had never been born. At this they trembled greatly, and I think that Christian fell into a swoon.” - The Pilgrims Progress

They found out that faith and the promises of God open the door to such a dreadful place.

“Now a little before it was day, good Christian, as one half amazed, brake out in passionate speech: What a fool, quoth he, am I, thus to lie in a stinking Dungeon, when I may as well walk at liberty. I have a Key in my bosom called Promise, that will, I am persuaded, open any Lock in Doubting Castle. Then said Hopeful, That's good news; good Brother pluck it out of thy bosom and try. A key in Christian's bosom, called Promise, opens any lock in Doubting Castle. Then Christian pulled it out of his bosom, and began to try at the Dungeon door, whose bolt (as he turned the Key) gave back, and the door flew open with ease, and Christian and Hopeful both came out. Then he went to the outward door that leads into the Castle-yard, and with his Key opened that door also. After he went to the iron Gate, for that must be opened too, but that Lock went damnable hard, yet the Key did open it. Then they thrust open the Gate to make their escape with speed; but that Gate as it opened made such a creaking, that it waked Giant Despair, who hastily rising to pursue his Prisoners, felt his limbs to fail, for his Fits took him again, so that he could by no means go after them. Then they went on, and came to the King's High-way again, and so were safe, because they were out of his jurisdiction.” - The Pilgrims Progress

What did they do before leaving those grounds?

“Now, when they were over the stile, they began to contrive with themselves what they should do at that stile to prevent those that should come after from falling into the hands of Giant Despair. So they consented to erect there a pillar, and to engrave upon the side thereof this sentence--"Over this stile is the way to Doubting Castle, which is kept by Giant Despair, who despiseth the King of the Celestial Country, and seeks to destroy his holy pilgrims." Many, therefore, that followed after read what was written, and escaped the danger.” - The Pilgrims Progress

We can’t reverse time, but we can warn others against the negative events that may head their way that will end up destroying them if they are not careful.

Sorn said:

NO!! This is not reversing time. This is simply the manipulation of light or photons.
A shadow is an absence of light in an otherwise lit area. God can simply remove or stop photons from hitting the surface concerned and presto, you have a shadow.

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Believe what you want.

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?

Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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Well if He can, cool. He is welcomed to erase my 20's then.
Please and thank you.

But more realistically, no I don't think He can just erase whole chunks of history. What he CAN do is use the tragedies in that time line to bring people closer to Him and He can show the victims how to have forgiveness.

AlexDTX said:

Believe what you want.

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Ok I will (like you don't!), but consider this, if God did 'roll' back time then
1) if Hezekiah had stepped outside would he have seen people walking backwards??
2) If someone died somewhere in the world in those 10 minutes, would they have come back to life only to die again?
3) If a baby was born somewhere in the world in those 10 minutes would the baby have gone back inside its mothers womb only to be born again?
4) If someone just finished going to the toilet for a number 2 in those 10 minutes would they have gone back and... well, I'll let you fill in the blanks here
5) Would all of the above also apply to animals?

Seriously dude, God just caused some photons to cease to exist for 10 minutes and created the shadow that way, that is ALL that was necessary.
A shadow is just the absence of light in an otherwise lit area!

we are not some cosmic DVD movie that God can just rewind!!

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?

Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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It is good you realize “even though it did”, history cannot be changed even if God was the only one to know about it.

The problem with the idea of redoing something suggests God did not allow or cause the best thing to happen, when He always does what is best?

If it was the best the first time why change it?

Going through tragedies and coming out on the other side should be a growing experience. God will help you get through those experiences and come out stronger, so you can help others through their tragedies. I have grown the fastest and the most under stress of a tragedy and everyone goes through tragedies if they live for any length of time.

Christ healed people but did not take their tragic experience away from them.

Think about stories you have heard from people who have gone through tragedies.

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?

Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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While God is not constrained to our time line, I don't believe He reverses things (with one exception).

Ricky M said:

While God is not constrained to our time line, I don't believe He reverses things (with one exception).

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Do tell please?

Sorn said:

Do tell please?

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Well, in short, I believe that when a believer goes apostate, God will go back in time to make it as if they were never actually one of us.

That is the very short version.

And now for the osas rebuttal...

(Sorry, didn't mean to derail)

Sorn said:

Ok I will (like you don't!), but consider this, if God did 'roll' back time then
1) if Hezekiah had stepped outside would he have seen people walking backwards??
2) If someone died somewhere in the world in those 10 minutes, would they have come back to life only to die again?
3) If a baby was born somewhere in the world in those 10 minutes would the baby have gone back inside its mothers womb only to be born again?
4) If someone just finished going to the toilet for a number 2 in those 10 minutes would they have gone back and... well, I'll let you fill in the blanks here
5) Would all of the above also apply to animals?

Seriously dude, God just caused some photons to cease to exist for 10 minutes and created the shadow that way, that is ALL that was necessary.
A shadow is just the absence of light in an otherwise lit area!

we are not some cosmic DVD movie that God can just rewind!!

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All that you have said are assumptions on your part according to your natural understanding.

The natural mind can not understand the things of the Spirit.

Explain to me how God is going to resurrect all mankind. People who have died at sea and been eaten by sea creatures; people who were blown to smithereens by bombs; the people who were instantly dissolved in Hiroshima nuclear blast; how is God going to reassemble these people? You can not explain it because it is beyond our ken.

Knowing this, I don't doubt that God turned time back in Kings as stated. I don't try to find natural answers to the work of God.

Time isn't a "thing" to be traveled through. Time is just a measurement. Time measures change and duration. It's not something that was even created by God.

Saying God exists "outside" of time is non-sensical, like asking God to draw a square-circle.

Again, time is just a measurement, there's not "inside" or "outside" of time.

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?

Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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Do you expect someone to answer this factually?

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?

Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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I don't know how a do-over would serve for His character as God, nor have I seen Him do a reverse time.Time is just a form of measurement that we have to come up with as human to make better sense of the world, for God time is just another thing that He controls. The only thing close to that is Resurrection and that was for a particular foreshadowing of an event to come, not to reverse something He have happen already.

If the negative event was erase from someone's mind, then there's no healing, because there would be no real impact to react to anymore. There's no growth from that, and maybe that person needs to grow and having that event push them where God needed them to be. Instead, God said to trust His promises, that He is always with us and given us the power to overcome, that in the end all of this is for our good those that love and serve Him, and the pain will be no more after this life.

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?

Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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I believe so, yes, but we never would, or never could recognize any evidence of it occurring. God will have to tell us when we see Him.

That said, I do believe in God's Providence, and therefore I don't think He makes mistakes that need any time reversal actions. Doesn't make sense that He would.

HopeInJesusOnly said:

Can God make it like something never happened (an accident, an abusive situation, a natural disaster, an illness, a death, etc.)?
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Here is an off-the-wall example, would God ever choose to wipe the memory of a negative event from all those involved so as to heal them of all signs of the trauma (physical, mental, spiritual) and make it like that negative never occurred (even though it did)?

What do you think? I mean, technically God can do anything, but does He ever choose to reverse time or wipe out the memory of a negative event so He doesn't even need to reverse time?

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He doesn't reverse events. All events serve his purpose in some way, even the most terrible. One thing all events do is teach. In the New World people will only remember events that are painful memories now as experiences only, without feeling pain attached to the thoughts about them. There will be no more pain attached to memories of our bad experiences we go through now.

Woke said:

He doesn't reverse events. All events serve his purpose in some way, even the most terrible. One thing all events do is teach. In the New World people will only remember events that are painful as experiences only, without feeling pain attached to the thoughts about them. There will be no more pain attached to memories of our bad experiences we go through now.

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We don't have to wait till the next life for this to happen - see post #58

SPF said:

Time isn't a "thing" to be traveled through. Time is just a measurement. Time measures change and duration. It's not something that was even created by God.

Saying God exists "outside" of time is non-sensical, like asking God to draw a square-circle.

Again, time is just a measurement, there's not "inside" or "outside" of time.

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According to physics we live in the space-time continuum. To say it is a mere measurement denies physics. We move through space and time together. It is the fourth dimension of space.

In teaching a gymnast how to do a back flip, she has to pull her legs up into her tuck when she reaches a certain place in space. Too low she lands on her face, too high she misses her feet and lands on her back. To reach that point is space she has to wait a specific amount of time to know when to tuck. Too soon she lands on her face, too late she lands on her back.

Your assumption about space and time is erroneous. The creation also includes a fifth dimension called the spirit. We are spirits that live in the spiritual world while also being bodies that live in the physical world.

God is a Spirit, who lives in the spiritual world he created, but also lives outside his creation. Why? Because before he created everything there was only God with no time nor space.

Your answer is a natural conclusion that disregards the reality of the Spirit.

Did God reverse time in King Hezekiah's day when the sundial moved backwards 10 degrees? Or did He moved the earth back in its orbit?