Furthermore, God doesn't want us using stimulants such as drugs.
Can Christians smoke and drink beer?
Maybe 1 package of cigarette per day, 1 pint of beer per day.
Is that allowable?
Not all stimulants are "drugs" per se' at least in the negative sense. "drugs" like caffeine are natural and created by God and in many natural foods. Most are familiar with it in coffee beans where a little stimulant is good and helpful in the morning or when tired etc.
My own view is that Christians can smoke and drink beer, but that they shouldn't smoke. The harmful effects of smoking are quite clear now. Our bodies are the temple of the Holy Spirit, and so we should honor God with our bodies. I think it's fine for Christians to have the odd beer, however in no way should we ever get drunk.
Ever went camping and cooking food on a fire? You breath in more of that smoke than someone smoking more than one cig...humans breathed harmful smoke since the beginning of humanity. Only modern kitchens have freed us from that but it's an issue in many places in the world. I also have a family member who is 87 and has smoked daily since a teenager and has no cancer or breathing problems. They are in great health for 87...I agree smoking in general is not healthy but it's different for each person and it's also an issue with modern chemicals in cigs vs. natural tabbaco...
Obviously. Are you seriously trying to nitpick? Try to understand the spirit of what I'm saying instead of going by the letter of what I said.
You make yourself look bad trying to find fault like that. I hope you don't do that in your day to day life, it doesn't look good!
Let's stick to the subject being discussed and not the person in a personal way
As I said, there is nothing wrong with caffeine . It is not bad for you, it is not a sin, and if you disagree then prove it.
There's actually something wrong with having too much caffeine.
Of course. Less caffeine is required to do harm than is water.
Caffeine is harmful in that it is highly addictive.
I think it's fine for Christians to have the odd beer, however in no way should we ever get drunk.
I don't think there's anything wrong with tying one on every now and then... The getting a little lit and loosening up kind, not the sloppy drunk, can't stand up, falling in the campfire kind.
The admonition is against being a drunkard - which implies a frequency of drunkenness, not a particular degree... Similar to the abuse of food, being obese. Eating moderately does not discount the occasional feast.
You must not be in a Greek Orthodox church.... I mean, a really GREEK Orthodox church. LOL, even the priests smoke and drink. Nothing wrong with it if not in excess...
I disagree. The admonition, I believe, is against any degree of being a drunkard. This would include the momentary drunkenness of occasionally being bombed.
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