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Can Christians smoke and drink beer?

Discussion in 'Christian Advice' started by Jesus_is_Saint, Oct 13, 2016.

  1. Jesus_is_Saint

    Jesus_is_Saint Well-Known Member

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    Can Christians smoke and drink beer?
    Maybe 1 package of cigarette per day, 1 pint of beer per day.
    Is that allowable?
     
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  2. ~Anastasia~

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    Why would anyone ask how close they can walk to the edge without falling over? Is that wise?

    That said, several principles apply. We are obligated to care for our bodies.

    But in spite of what many teach, and often need to wrangle the Scriptures in an attempt to prove - drinking alcohol isn't a sin. Christ turned water into wine at the wedding at Cana, and Paul advised Timothy to drink a little wine for the sake of his stomach. However - being drunk IS a sin.

    Cigarettes serve no useful purpose, and are bad for the body in any amount, so if someone were to ask me, I think the correct thing to do is not to smoke.

    But Christianity isn't meant to be a set of laws, do's and don'ts - rather it is a way of moving toward God and healing the damage done by sin. Still, smoking won't help this, nor will getting drunk. Restrained drinking of beer or wine isn't prohibited though.

    (But I will say, we must know ourselves. If one has a tendency to alcoholism, for example, any amount of alcohol might be a poor choice for that person and should be avoided.)

    (And just to answer in advance what folks will surely oppose - I am allergic to tobacco and so never smoked, and I don't really enjoy the taste of alcohol, so I generally go months without ever tasting any or it crossing my mind, then I might have a glass of wine with my husband on our anniversary or whatever - but I have no stake at all in justifying either of these things. This is simply what I believe, history supports, and the Scriptures teach. And I have no desire to debate.) :)
     
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  3. NothingIsImpossible

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    I'd say its a hard topic. To much of anything turns it into a sin. Whether it being making something an idol, addiction to it, abuse of it...etc. Most agree unless you get drunk or smoke a ton, its not a big deal. I'm mixed on it because even if someone feels its not a sin and not a big deal, your still harming your temple. Even if its one cig a day or one drink a day.

    But then again eating/drinking to much/little of anything can harm your temple. When it comes to cigs/drinking I just stay away from it all together. Even if I never become addicted I still know its bad for the body. Not that I am judging if someone else smokes or drinks. We all have our vices and idols.
     
  4. ewq1938

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    The bible does not address the issue of smoking. It says not to be a drunkard but says drinking in moderation is ok.

    So, I say YES to both.
     
  5. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Nothing about drinking or smoking in that verse.

    Pro 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.
    Pro 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.
     
  6. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    I doubt alcohol or cigs will exist in the eternity so I guess I agree with that part of your post. However, The saints of THIS LIFE might smoke and drink without condemnation.
     
  7. Blindspot6

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    Smoking has always been bothering me in my mind being a Christian.
    I smoke and I always feel so guilty about it but I just don't have the strong will to stop. I rarely consume alcohol other than on special occasion and also very little of it.

    It started when I went to college which is away from my home.
    No one couch to me it. Just that at time you feel so stress and lonely on the initial stage. You think you will kill some time with it telling yourself that you can stop if you wanted to. Sadly it turn out to be not true.

    I have been smoking for the last 20+ years.
    I tried to stop couple of time but, like I said, I just don't have the strong will.

    Or maybe another part inside of me refuse to let it go.
    I find cigarette like some kind of a companion to me, it relieve my tension and stress. Call it an excuses but that's how I feel.
     
  8. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Smoking cigs is not a moral issue regarding your eternal soul.

    You should quit! But no one goes to hell for smoking.


     
  9. ewq1938

    ewq1938 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It does not address human life nor drinking and smoking in this life.
     
  10. Blindspot6

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    To me, somehow, I feel its a moral issue being a christian.

    I know I should quit. I will have to try harder.
     
  11. ewq1938

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    Can you explain why knowing any of that pertains to the discussed issue of drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes?
     
  12. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    I have been consuming too much wine lately. I am very weak though.
     
  13. Inkfingers

    Inkfingers Somebody's heretic Supporter

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    As far as I can tell a drink is acceptable but drunkenness is not.

    As for smoking, I would class that as recklessly destructive of the temple of the holy spirit.

    For info: I smoked for a couple of years but quit, and I drink very moderately (at most a small glass of cognac at night or a glass of wine on a special occasion meal).
     
  14. Armoured

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    I don't think anyone can smoke beer, Christian or not.
     
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  15. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    Indeed.

    I heard a very interesting theological discussion in the summer of 1970 - at least interesting to my 15 year old ears. It was 2 teen age guys, both Southern Baptists AFAICT; one from a southern state and the other from the north. The southerner posited that if you did not smoke you could not be saved, while the northerner believed that if you DID smoke you could not be saved.

    Neither had a shred of biblical support for their respective positions. What was so interesting was their attempts to twist scriptures to fit their arguments.
     
  16. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    My college roommate did. He used beer in a bong while he smoked dope.
     
  17. Dave-W

    Dave-W Welcoming grandchild #7, Arturus Waggoner! Supporter

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    Gimme a break. You are judging 2 young teenage guys you know absolutely nothing about.
     
  18. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    Au contraire
    Smoking Beer! - YouTube
     
  19. Goatee

    Goatee Jesus, please forgive me, a sinner.

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    Wine is good for you. At least 2 bottles a day keeps the world away! kidding!
     
  20. DawnStar

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    All 613 of them?
     
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