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Can Christians eat pigs blood?

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That is your interpretation. That is not implied anywhere in the text.
No where in the text does it state what you say. No mention of idolatrous practices at all for the reason of the few laws mentioned. The reason only a few laws are mentioned in verse 20 is concluded in verse 21.

Acts 15:21 For (Because) Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

In other words baby steps.They will get all they need to know and do in time, "For (Because) Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day."

Again, totally wrong :doh:
 
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Feel better now mmk? There was no need for the screaming friend.

James the Just added the prophecy's evidence to that of the facts presented by the previous speakers.

James suggested that letters be sent to the Gentiles whom God was giving faith to, warning them against idol worship's contaminations, against fornication, against eating strangled animals, and against eating blood. This is because in idolotry was included idolatrous feasts, where meat was served that'd been sacrificed to false gods.

The sins against the Sixth Commandment were practiced in connection with idols' temples, though these sins were prevalent otherwise as well, breaches of the Christian purity.

It's God's will that Christians avoid idolotry, and that they remain unspotted from the world, including the world's joys.

James also added the ban concerning the eating of animals that had been stunned or strangled without blood's loss, and that of blood itself, for another reason. These practices had been forbidden and were considered by the Jews, an abomination. And the Jewish Christians hadn't yet been able to throw off this disgust, in James' opinion, so, the Gentile Christians might well be asked to have some consideration for their Jewish brethren in this case. Christian love demanded as much.

I wasn't screaming! Emphasis! This is screaming---SCREAM!
Don't be so sensitive!!

It's plain enough---abstain from strangled, blood and fornication---you are free to do as you so choose.
 
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I wasn't screaming! Emphasis! This is screaming---SCREAM!
Don't be so sensitive!!

It's plain enough---abstain from strangled, blood and fornication---you are free to do as you so choose.
Yes it is.
In this venue it is perceived as teaching whether we realize it or not. Though it is a fact we are free to do as we choose. I think it would be ill advised in respect to the Word of GOD to council so.
 
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Yes it is.
In this venue it is perceived as teaching whether we realize it or not. Though it is a fact we are free to do as we choose. I think it would be ill advised in respect to the Word of GOD to council so.

And you are teaching others to disregard the plainly stated word of God. I am pointing out exactly what it says---everybody is old enough to decide for themselves.
 
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I have a recipe for black pudding that uses 2 cups of pig blood. I was going to get some in a tube but I didn't know if Christians are bound to not eat blood?
No, because black pudding is nasty.
 
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Where does it say they can eat what they want?

"Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
" - Colossians 2:16-23

"As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Why do you pass judgment on your brother? Or you, why do you despise your brother? For we will all stand before the judgment seat of God; for it is written,

'As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to me,
and every tongue shall confess to God.'

So then each of us will give an account of himself to God.

Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. For if your brother is grieved by what you eat, you are no longer walking in love. By what you eat, do not destroy the one for whom Christ died. So do not let what you regard as good be spoken of as evil. For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking but of righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit. Whoever thus serves Christ is acceptable to God and approved by men. So then let us pursue what makes for peace and for mutual upbuilding.

Do not, for the sake of food, destroy the work of God. Everything is indeed clean, but it is wrong for anyone to make another stumble by what he eats. It is good not to eat meat or drink wine or do anything that causes your brother to stumble. The faith that you have, keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who has no reason to pass judgment on himself for what he approves. But whoever has doubts is condemned if he eats, because the eating is not from faith. For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin.
" - Romans 14

"'All things are lawful,' but not all things are helpful. 'All things are lawful,' but not all things build up. Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. For 'the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof.' If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience. But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for the sake of conscience— I do not mean your conscience, but his. For why should my liberty be determined by someone else's conscience? If I partake with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks?

So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, just as I try to please everyone in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved.
" - 1 Corinthians 10:23-33

My liberty of conscience is not excuse to cause my neighbor or brother stumbling; but I do have that liberty of conscience concerning these matters, and I cannot be judged by another who would say "Don't taste" or "Don't touch". It's about liberty of conscience exercised through love. For on these matters, what I eat I eat with a clean conscience, but I should be mindful also of the conscience of my neighbor, that I may not cause them to stumble.

So yes, I am free to eat whatever I want, and do so with a clean and free conscience before God. But if someone is weak and is bothered in conscience by such things, then I should be mindful and not let my freedom of conscience cause them distress. Further, if someone seeks to act as judge over such matters, I should not allow myself to be distressed as though their stipulations over such trivial things such as food should hold my conscience captive.

If I am with a vegan who is distressed over the consumption of animal products, though I am free to eat meat, eggs, dairy etc I can, for their sake, abstain from these while in their presence so as to not cause their conscience distress. But if they were to tell me that I must abstain from animal products as though it were a command, I am not under any obligation to obey--their judgment does not impede my liberty. And so the point is both our freedom of conscience and that we should exercise that freedom through love and mindfulness.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Abstain from meats offered to idols AND from fornication--Doesn't mean to abstain from fornication offered to idols!!! Doesn't mean to abstain from things strangled only if they are offered to idols!

No, but it is probably a reference to temple prostitution.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Yes it is.
In this venue it is perceived as teaching whether we realize it or not. Though it is a fact we are free to do as we choose. I think it would be ill advised in respect to the Word of GOD to council so.

I feel as though this bears repeating at this time.
Taken from my post #12 of Oct. 2017.

This is what the Bible specifically says on the matter in the New Testament, you can read all the chapters if you feel inclined to do so.

Act. 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Act. 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Act. 21:25
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

So then you can see it does speak of "IDOLS" doesn't it?
 
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OK--Sorry---was not meant that way. Just meant to point out the specific words.

I understood your post the way you posted it to be, no problem with the CAPS.
I do the same, if others are so thin skinned that they cannot understand what your doing and why, then they need to grow up a bit.
 
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And you are teaching others to disregard the plainly stated word of God. I am pointing out exactly what it says---everybody is old enough to decide for themselves.

Is what your saying SDA Doctrine?
 
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Why would you say this? No where in the text does it state what you say here. No mention of Paganism at all for the reason of the few laws mentioned. The reason only a few laws are mentioned in verse 20 is concluded in verse 21.

Acts 15:21 For (Because) Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

In other words baby steps.They will get all they need to know and do in time, "For (Because) Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day."

Refer to post #52
 
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Is what your saying SDA Doctrine?


Most are vegetarian--many are vegan. Those that do eat meat, stick to the "clean meats." The thought of eating blood grosses me out! Even when I was out in the world and wanted nothing to do with God or good health---I couldn't stomach the thought of eating blood products.
 
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I feel as though this bears repeating at this time.
Taken from my post #12 of Oct. 2017.

This is what the Bible specifically says on the matter in the New Testament, you can read all the chapters if you feel inclined to do so.

Act. 15:20
But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

Act. 15:29
That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.

Act. 21:25
As touching the Gentiles which believe, we have written and concluded that they observe no such thing, save only that they keep themselves from things offered to idols, and from blood, and from strangled, and from fornication.

So then you can see it does speak of "IDOLS" doesn't it?
In each circumstance when the list is listed the issues are separated from one another by the word "and".

Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and fornication, and things strangled, and blood.

Grammatically speaking the nouns: idols, fornication, things strangled, and blood which are listed are connected to the verb abstain in the clause "abstain from pollutions" not to the noun idols.

Besides that the very next sentence starts with the word "for". As was stated this word precedes the explanation of something that was before.

Acts 15:21 For (because) Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

How is verse 21 the explanation of verse 21? Because Moses (Pentateuch) is read every Sabbath and they will hear and get the rest that they need as they grow.

It is ironic that these verses are used to show that the Book of the Law as a Whole is made null and void considering four laws from it are mentioned to be still active. And two of which, abstaining from the pollutions of blood and things strangled are dietary.
 
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This is a question only YOU can answer as everyone is led by the Spirit in them differently.

In general you are free to eat as you wish,
1 Corinthians 10:25-30
but if you feel a conviction to not eat something... then you should stick to it as to keep your conscience clear.

It's a choice that only you can answer for yourself.
 
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In each circumstance when the list is listed the issues are separated from one another by the word "and".

Acts 15:20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and fornication, and things strangled, and blood.

Grammatically speaking the nouns: idols, fornication, things strangled, and blood which are a listed are connected to the verb abstain in the clause "abstain from pollutions" not to the noun idols.

Besides that the very next sentence starts with the word "for". As was stated this word precedes the explanation of something that was before.

Acts 15:21 For (because) Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.

How is verse 21 the explanation of verse 21? Because Moses (Pentateuch) is read every Sabbath and they will hear and get the rest that they need as they grow.

It is ironic that these verses are used to show that the Book of the Law as a Whole is made null and void considering four laws from it are mentioned to be still active. And two of which, abstaining from the pollutions of blood and things strangled are dietary.

This is a question only YOU can answer as everyone is led by the Spirit in them differently.

In general you are free to eat as you wish,
1 Corinthians 10:25-30
but if you feel a conviction to not eat something... then you should stick to it as to keep your conscience clear.

It's a choice that only you can answer for yourself.


Well then---my friend is very happy to hear this as now she can go back to her boyfriend and continue fornicating and eating blood sausages! Good Job! You've made them both very happy.
 
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Good so you see and are abstaining from going on with Acts 15.
"Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one disqualify you, insisting on asceticism and worship of angels, going on in detail about visions, puffed up without reason by his sensuous mind, and not holding fast to the Head, from whom the whole body, nourished and knit together through its joints and ligaments, grows with a growth that is from God.

If with Christ you died to the elemental spirits of the world, why, as if you were still alive in the world, do you submit to regulations— “Do not handle, Do not taste, Do not touch” (referring to things that all perish as they are used)—according to human precepts and teachings? These have indeed an appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion and asceticism and severity to the body, but they are of no value in stopping the indulgence of the flesh.
" - Colossians 2:16-23
Let starts in verse 13.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
The issue forgiveness of all trespasses. The verse ends with a semi colon. This denotes that whatever follows is connected to what was before the semi colon. We are now forgiven of all our sins. We no longer have to go to the temple and utilize the Levitical priesthood in relation to our sins.

Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting to the ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;.

It was the handwriting to the ordinances that were blotted out and only those which were against us. Those that past condemnation upon us when we sinned.

Verse 16 Sabbath is being said in context to the handwriting to the ordinances. Not the Ordinances themselves and certainly not the Decalogue.
"I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean. - Romans 14
The Greek word there translated unclean is Koinos. It means common not unclean. There were animals considered common and animals that were considered unclean. This distinction is made in Acts 9 when Peter's vision is revealed.
And he became very hungry, and would have eaten: but while they made ready, he fell into a trance, And saw heaven opened, and a certain vessel descending unto him, as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners, and let down to the earth: Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth, and wild beasts, and creeping things, and fowls of the air. And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat. But Peter said, Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean. And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
(Act 10:10-15 KJV)
The word OR is A primary particle of distinction between two connected terms. In this instance the distinction is being made between what is common and unclean. The fact that clean animals where in the sheet intermingling with the unclean animals is what made the clean animals common or ceremonial unclean themselves. The second thing to notice is GOD's reply. HE only mentions cleansing the common not the unclean.

"'All things are lawful,' but not all things are helpful. 'All things are lawful,' but not all things build up. Let no one seek his own good, but the good of his neighbor. Eat whatever is sold in the meat market without raising any question on the ground of conscience. For 'the earth is the Lord's, and the fullness thereof.' If one of the unbelievers invites you to dinner and you are disposed to go, eat whatever is set before you without raising any question on the ground of conscience. But if someone says to you, “This has been offered in sacrifice,” then do not eat it, for the sake of the one who informed you, and for the sake of conscience— I do not mean your conscience, but his. For why should my liberty be determined by someone else's conscience? If I partake with thankfulness, why am I denounced because of that for which I give thanks?

So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to the glory of God. Give no offense to Jews or to Greeks or to the church of God, just as I try to please everyone in everything I do, not seeking my own advantage, but that of many, that they may be saved.
" - 1 Corinthians 10:23-33
The context is not knowing what you are served in respects to things sacrificed not the animals GOD had said we were not to eat because they were unclean .
 
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