Can Christianity survive without the Pope?

[prodromos]

That would be like denying your Patriarch.

There were no patriarchs in the early church.

Of course I would not do that.

Then you would be denying reality :shrug:

Peter was an Apostle, one of the Twelve, also the one to whom scriptures states the Keys were to be given to. To deny that Peter is a Patriarch and that he had a successor is the same as someone saying your Patriarch was not connected as a successor (Apostolic Succession). What a terrible thing that would be. To have people trying to show your Patriarch has no Apostolic Succession.

All bishops are successors to the apostles, regardless of whether their particular parish took on greater honour and responsibility due to its size. I'm afraid your argument simply does not follow.

For me and Catholics and many others (including EOC and OOC) the Pope is the successor of Peter and there is an Apostolic line to Peter.

The bolded word is ahistorical. Peter established many Churches other than Rome. Their bishops are equally successors of Peter and through him, the Apostles.

One would have to ignore the writings and many other proofs of ECHs and others.

What are ECHs?

John

 

[Dorothea]

EO doesnt have the complete Bible, actually the complete Bible is in Catholic Church, with deuterocanonical assumed by early church. If fact, the cave of Qumran proofs that Catholic Bible is true, and protestants realized that Septuagint is the real Word of God, but their altivity doesnt allow them recognize the Catholic Church.

If Roma falls, the EO will develop its roots of disorder, and James and Revelation will be destroyed, as will of Luther was. Roma contrains EO to develop its destroyer doctrines of sola fides and sola scriptura. Roma keeps the doctrine of sacraments, that Bible proofs; on the other hand EO restricts the worshipping of saints, what is a cancer of Catholic and Ortodox Church, breaking the Word of God, leading humble people to idolatry and many people to atheism, with its astonishment corruption of Revelation.

Wow, you really have no knowledge or understanding of the EOC.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

What is herexy?

Typo perhaps

Strong's Concordance with Hebrew and Greek Lexicon

Search Multiple Dictionaries (including Easton's Bible Dictionary) :

herexy- no dictionary results

 

[Mobiosity]

Catholicism would die, Christianity would do just fine.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Catholicism would die, Christianity would do just fine.

CORRECTOMUNDO!

 

[Jeronimomoulia]

I thought that EO meant Evangelical Organization, but if doesnt mean this, I will learn something now today.

Herexy is breaking the revelation, by example breaking the canon of holy books; bringing in holy books of Bible or taking out books so Bible becomes thinner, refusing divinity of Christ of denying sacraments of God.

Who has the authority to say what´s the revelation; nobody, but he who Christ say at: "You are Peter, on this rock I will build my church which gates of hell will challenge but will not prevail against".

Without Peter, Luther would have destroyed James and book of Revelation; and now sola fides would have developped againts unity in canon, every protestant would have his own canon, according to the own revelation by Holy Gost. Confirmation has been destroyed in protestantism, but the next step is baptism; it would have the understanding of a symbol of new-born, baptism would be just a ritual; at first it would be tolerated, but after refused as a way to breeding the flesh. They would say that only faith saves, not water.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

*snip*
I thought that EO meant Evangelical Organization, but if doesnt mean this, I will learn something now today.
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I suppose that could be another way to put it
Here is their board if you are interested

http://www.christianforums.com/f145/
The Ancient Way - Eastern Orthodox

 

[Montalban]

I thought that EO meant Evangelical Organization, but if doesnt mean this, I will learn something now today.

Eastern Orthodox

Herexy is breaking the revelation, by example breaking the canon of holy books; bringing in holy books of Bible or taking out books so Bible becomes thinner, refusing divinity of Christ of denying sacraments of God.

There's no such word as herexy

If you mean heresy that's another matter

Who has the authority to say what´s the revelation; nobody, but he who Christ say at: "You are Peter, on this rock I will build my church which gates of hell will challenge but will not prevail against".

Without Peter, Luther would have destroyed James and book of Revelation; and now sola fides would have developped againts unity in canon, every protestant would have his own canon, according to the own revelation by Holy Gost. Confirmation has been destroyed in protestantism, but the next step is baptism; it would have the understanding of a symbol of new-born, baptism would be just a ritual; at first it would be tolerated, but after refused as a way to breeding the flesh. They would say that only faith saves, not water.

Where do you get this stuff?

 

[Montalban]

Typo perhaps

Perhaps, except he keeps using it.

I'm lysdexic

 

[Standing Up]

Perhaps, except he keeps using it.

I'm lysdexic

I'm wondering if EO and RC have the same canon (from a comment a few posts back)?

 

[blessedmomof5]

Well said! Also on a side note, how sad it is that religion has so much faith in a man that it could no longer exsist!!!!

Catholicism would die, Christianity would do just fine.

 

[Montalban]

I'm wondering if EO and RC have the same canon (from a comment a few posts back)?

You know there is difference

 

[Standing Up]

You know there is difference

I knew OO and P did, but what is EO versus RC on canon? Or do you have a link perhaps?

 

[Montalban]

I knew OO and P did, but what is EO versus RC on canon? Or do you have a link perhaps?

Try Wiki

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Standing Up I knew OO and P did, but what is EO versus RC on canon? Or do you have a link perhaps?

Try Wiki

What are we looking for?

 

[Montalban]

StandingUp wants to know if the canons are different amongst the churches.

 

[katherine2001]

Try Wiki

Here is a link:

Biblical canon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[sunlover1]

Confirmation has been destroyed in protestantism,

What is 'confirmation"?
I received the 'sacrament' of confirmation but have no idea what it means
or where it came from (Scripture?)

 

[Rick Otto]

Confirmation I think is where you get slapped.
It comes before First Communion if I remember right.

 

[GigageiTsula]

Well said! Also on a side note, how sad it is that religion has so much faith in a man that it could no longer exist!!!!

I think this is true. I agree.