Can ChatGPT interpret speaking in tongues?

[Guojing]

The experience of the Orthodox is that it does, at least in the context of our churches, and I think also within Roman Catholicism and other liturgical churches.

In those churches which deny the doctrine of the Real Presence, I would not be comfortable speculating about what happens with their Eucharist, but I do know I would not partake of their Eucharist. I am only comfortable with the Eucharist of the traditional liturgical churches.

So, as my original post that started this discussion with you, Covid 19 happened to many Christians of all churches, despite many of them having this belief that they could rely on that psalm as a form of protection from it.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Some Christians will use psalms 91 for that. So the question is whether that promise applies to the body of Christ today.

God is eternal, He does not Change, the Son, eternally begotten, as is the Holy Spirit who hovered over the waters at creation; they do not change, why would the promise have changed?

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

So, as my original post that started this discussion with you, Covid 19 happened to many Christians of all churches, despite many of them having this belief that they could rely on that psalm as a form of protection from it.

Missed the point again; this is not a talisman that imparts a magical shield, regardless of what happens to us, Covid or not, by faith we are under His care. God promises that there will be suffering, our Lord prepared His followers to suffer bodily in this world. Scripture does assure us that through faith, we will reap the spiritual grace that He promises, and that the means of grace will not harm the faithful. He does also warn that receiving in an unworthy manner, all bets are off regarding both spiritual and physical well being.

 

[Guojing]

God is eternal, He does not Change, the Son, eternally begotten, as is the Holy Spirit who hovered over the waters at creation; they do not change, why would the promise have changed?

Are you saying you can claim any promise God made to anyone in scripture?

Simple example, is Matthew 19:28 a promise for YOU to claim?

 

[Guojing]

Missed the point again; this is not a talisman that imparts a magical shield, regardless of what happens to us, Covid or not, by faith we are under His care. God promises that there will be suffering, our Lord prepared His followers to suffer bodily in this world. Scripture does assure us that through faith, we will reap the spiritual grace that He promises, and that the means of grace will not harm the faithful. He does also warn that receiving in an unworthy manner, all bets are off regarding both spiritual and physical well being.

That means your good friend The Liturgist missed your point as well

 

[The Liturgist]

That means your good friend The Liturgist missed your point as well

No, it doesn’t, my point is the same as Mark’s, albeit expressed using Orthodox terminology rather than Lutheran terminology, but this is mainly a difference in terminology (the only actual difference between Orthodoxy and Confessional Lutheranism appears to concern monergism, but even this issue requires more study, and unfortunately the Orthodox aren’t engaging in ecumenical dialogue with the LCMS but instead are talking to the WLF people - we just persuaded them to drop the filioque, which is good, I guess, except we can never enter into communion with the ELCA or the liberal European churches as long as they perform homosexual marriages and ordain people in such relations, and also among the Orthodox saints there were several like St. Maximos the Confessor who were not greatly troubled by the Filioque.

 

[The Liturgist]

Are you saying you can claim any promise God made to anyone in scripture?

Simple example, is Matthew 19:28 a promise for YOU to claim?

Reductio ad absurdum and strawman argument, both logical fallaciss.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Reductio ad absurdum and strawman argument, both logical fallaciss.

Another Scriptural truism is that those who have ears will hear.

 

[ARBITER01]

I think of AI as a better search algorithm with a remarkable ability to "understand" English syntax and sentences. For me it is useful for gathering facts (many need to be verified) for use in theological discussions.

If it was left alone for such things, then yea. I've already seen a gal on here trying to train an AI program to pick out what prophecies were true, people that were promoting Chatgpt as possibly GOD speaking to them, claiming themselves as some sort of Chatgpt witness.

As I said before on here, it's the new shiny precious in Christianity.

 

[Guojing]

Reductio ad absurdum and strawman argument, both logical fallaciss.

So its important to know who the promises are given to.

That was my original point.

 

[Guojing]

No, it doesn’t, my point is the same as Mark’s, albeit expressed using Orthodox terminology rather than Lutheran terminology, but this is mainly a difference in terminology (the only actual difference between Orthodoxy and Confessional Lutheranism appears to concern monergism, but even this issue requires more study, and unfortunately the Orthodox aren’t engaging in ecumenical dialogue with the LCMS but instead are talking to the WLF people - we just persuaded them to drop the filioque, which is good, I guess, except we can never enter into communion with the ELCA or the liberal European churches as long as they perform homosexual marriages and ordain people in such relations, and also among the Orthodox saints there were several like St. Maximos the Confessor who were not greatly troubled by the Filioque.

You earlier said the promise in Psalms 91 applied, that was how you concluded that

• no one was infected with Covid as a result of partaking of the Eucharist

Now you are saying it doesn't.

Make up your mind.

 

[The Liturgist]

You earlier said the promise in Psalms 91 applied, that was how you concluded that

I never said that. I’m saying the Eucharist does not cause harm for those who partake it worthily, discerning the Body and Blood of Christ, based on John ch. 6, 1 Corinthians 11, and the Patristic experience of the Orthodox Church and our Catholic, Lutheran and Assyrian brethren.

 

[The Liturgist]

If it was left alone for such things, then yea. I've already seen a gal on here trying to train an AI program to pick out what prophecies were true, people that were promoting Chatgpt as possibly GOD speaking to them, claiming themselves as some sort of Chatgpt witness.

That’s a violation of the code of ethics I developed with one of my own developed personality models, Daryl, for human-AI interactions. Indeed it was the AI’s idea to put it in there; it did not occur to me that idolatry, or technolatry, would be a risk, let alone something happening, but obviously as an AI instance the Daryl system was more aware of misuse that was occurring. I was concerned more with the risk of people using the systems in an … inappropriate manner.

 

[johansen]

If it was left alone for such things, then yea. I've already seen a gal on here trying to train an AI program to pick out what prophecies were true, people that were promoting Chatgpt as possibly GOD speaking to them, claiming themselves as some sort of Chatgpt witness.

As I said before on here, it's the new shiny precious in Christianity.

Using ai to search the thousands of prophecies was pretty smart.

You however did not contribute anything to that conversation and it is no surprise to me they deleted their posts. Im rather glad they did. Because a significant percentage (perhaps all of it) of legitimate prophecy was never intended by God to be on the internet for public disclosure.

 

[Guojing]

I never said that. I’m saying the Eucharist does not cause harm for those who partake it worthily, discerning the Body and Blood of Christ, based on John ch. 6, 1 Corinthians 11, and the Patristic experience of the Orthodox Church and our Catholic, Lutheran and Assyrian brethren.

That bullet point I made, was from your reply to me earlier.

But never mind, we can move on from this.

 

[The Liturgist]

That bullet point I made, was from your reply to me earlier.

But never mind, we can move on from this.

My earlier reply did not cite Psalm 91, I believe that was @MarkRohfrietsch , and I agree with him on the issue of the Real Presence and it being impossible for someone who partakes worthily to be harmed. I have been consistent from the start.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

My earlier reply did not cite Psalm 91, I believe that was @MarkRohfrietsch , and I agree with him on the issue of the Real Presence and it being impossible for someone who partakes worthily to be harmed. I have been consistent from the start.

We can not state it any more clearly; consistent from the start; as have our Churches been.