Can Charismatics debate here?

[ChrisB]

which gifts do charismatics deny???

I'm thinking here of gifts like serving, teaching, encouraging and administration. According to Paul these gifts are every bit as valid as tongues, healing or prophecy but some charismatics appear to regard them as "second-class" gifts and give the impression that someone who does not have the more "spectacular" gifts is not truly saved.

I'm not having a go at charismatics in general, I think we can learn much from them in terms of faith and passion for Jesus. I'm just saying that some appear to have this attitude.

 

[Svt4Him]

I'm thinking here of gifts like serving, teaching, encouraging and administration. According to Paul these gifts are every bit as valid as tongues, healing or prophecy but some charismatics appear to regard them as "second-class" gifts and give the impression that someone who does not have the more "spectacular" gifts is not truly saved.

I'm not having a go at charismatics in general, I think we can learn much from them in terms of faith and passion for Jesus. I'm just saying that some appear to have this attitude.

Yes, there are some in error, yet there are pretty much some of every denomination in error.

 

[PatrickM]

Lex, charismatics are the ones who believe spiritual gifts never ceased. (The early Church said they had ceased so people would stop making claims about secret knowledge and coming up with new canon. However, it popped back up in the late 1800s.)

Not to be argumentative here , but Eusebius wrote of gifts being in existence in his day in his Eccl. History, cir. 4th century. And there is much written of their existence throughout church history. They didn't "pop" back in the late 1800s.

 

[Plan 9]

thank you for clarifying, Plan 9. I did not want to be a source of confusion. I was going by my memory of Jimmy Swaggart from the Assembly of God. He always mentioned the three that I did as being Trinitarian and Pentecostal.
I used to be Assembly of God, and I read the statement of faith of Four Square. They were atarted by Amie Semple Mcpherson, I believe. The Pentecostal denominations grew out of the Asuza street (sp?) revival in 1906. I thought that there was a trinitarian Chruch of God that was Pentecostal I was aware of the Jesus Only groups which is why I foot noted my post.

sorry again if I gave misinformation

You information is accurate according to my sources.

A friend of mine did her Master's thesis on the homiletics of Aimee Semple McPherson, and traveled to Angelus Temple to study there. She found rolf McPherson to be a fine, hospitible man, and used to worry that he wouldn't like her thesis when she sent him a copy. lol
I thought it was great myself!
Sister Aimee was a fascinating woman and she fed and clothed many people during the Great Depression.