They cannot believe and obey unless he saves them.He can't save them until they believe and obey. That's what scripture says. That's why Jesus calls belief a work.
Show me in the scripture where it says that.They cannot believe and obey unless he saves them.
“They have not known nor understood: For he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; And their hearts, that they cannot understand.” Isaiah 44:18 (KJV 1900)Show me in the scripture where it says that.
“They have not known nor understood: For he hath shut their eyes, that they cannot see; And their hearts, that they cannot understand.” Isaiah 44:18 (KJV 1900)
“And he said, Go, and tell this people, Hear ye indeed, but understand not; And see ye indeed, but perceive not. Make the heart of this people fat, And make their ears heavy, and shut their eyes; Lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, And understand with their heart, and convert, and be healed.” Isaiah 6:9–10 (KJV 1900)
“For the LORD hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep, And hath closed your eyes: The prophets and your rulers, the seers hath he covered.” Isaiah 29:10 (KJV 1900)
“And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:” 2 Thessalonians 2:11 (KJV 1900)
You can ignore the context of Paul's letter and you can dismiss the old testament's plain words telling the Israelites that sacrifices resulted in the remission of sins. That does not mean a thing except that you do not accept God's words.
Again, this is why St.Paul clearly states:
Hebrews 10:4 - "For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins."
I'm curious. Maybe you can provide me with some context.Suppose a person is saved, by whatever criteria you choose to define it, and he sets out to prove his salvation.
Since no saved person could willingly sin against God, he purposely sets out to sin. He snatches his neighbor's rake in the middle of the night and runs off with it.
Just to be sure, he resolves to never to confess his sin to man nor God.
What is his status from the foundation of the world?
Yes, ignore the previous passages where Paul explains that the sacrifice of Christ was better because it was one sacrifice for all sins whereas the old sacrifices were continually offered.
I do not consider the councils of men to have any weight.
But Luther didn't believe we're "irresistibly chosen." I think his meaning was that those who are saved by Faith are still sinners, but that their salvation is not negated by such sin.I'm not a Calvinist, but Martin Luther said even if one commits adultery and murder a hundred times a day, he's still saved. I would think that's a logical conclusion of being irresistibly chosen.
Suppose a person is saved, by whatever criteria you choose to define it, and he sets out to prove his salvation.
Since no saved person could willingly sin against God, he purposely sets out to sin. He snatches his neighbor's rake in the middle of the night and runs off with it.
Just to be sure, he resolves to never to confess his sin to man nor God.
What is his status from the foundation of the world?
Suppose a person is saved, by whatever criteria you choose to define it, and he sets out to prove his salvation.
Since no saved person could willingly sin against God, he purposely sets out to sin. He snatches his neighbor's rake in the middle of the night and runs off with it.
Just to be sure, he resolves to never to confess his sin to man nor God.
What is his status from the foundation of the world?
"Paul explains that the sacrifice of Christ was better"- This not only because it was one sacrifice - as opposed to continual sacrifices under the Old Covenant - but because the blood of the one type was the blood of animals that profited nothing other than pointing to the sacrifice of Christ, while the Blood of the latter is the Blood of God Himself which profits everything, which was poured out for the forgiveness of sins.
"I do not consider the councils of men to have any weight."- And yet you accept the canon of Scripture to be the Canon of Scripture because the Catholic Church deemed it so.
You are fundamentally in error in how you view the Scripture and approach the Scripture.
The Bible does not interpret itself, in case you didn't know that just look at the wild nonsensical interpretations of the other guy you were debating with on this thread.
God does not author such confusion. This is the reason he left a Church and a Holy Spirit to guide her until He returns again...
God resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.
Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit = saved before you can believe in any true sense.None of those scriptures says that one is saved before they believe.
Jesus says, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned."
Belief comes first. And if it doesn't, then there's no need to preach the gospel. People are just automatically saved.
It doesn't matter what acts I may have committed or not committed, nor does it matter the reasons I may or may not have committed them. It only matters that there are intentional sins and sins of ignorance.
1Jo 5:16 - If anyone sees his brother sinning a sin which does not lead to death, he will ask, and He will give him life for those who commit sin not leading to death. There is sin leading to death. I do not say that he should pray about that.
Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit = saved before you can believe in any true sense.
Abel and Job, Abraham and others were born again as seen in their faith.Faith was a fruit for those who received the gifts. It was not a general gift given to every believer as Paul tells the church at Corinth. Again, to believe was a command. You can't obey a promise, only a command. You're attempting to negate the gospel with your pretext. A pretext that wasn't even invented until the 16th century. Nobody in the first century thought that salvation preceded belief.
That's commentary, not scripture. He actually writes that the animal sacrifices did provide cleansing in at least two places in Hebrews.
The scripture was already canon before any council made it "official." In fact when Constantine convened the Nicean convention, he ordered 50 texts and did not dictate what was to be in them. They contained the 27 books of the New Testament.
Councils of men have never decided canon. The church did that by around 140 AD.
It does in fact as God explains in Isaiah 28 and Paul tells us in Ephesians.
It isn't about pride. Paul tells us we can read and understand the scriptures. He was inspired by the Holy Spirit to write that it was so. God isn't the author of confusion, true.
Anyone saved or not can willfully indulge in sin.
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