ugh im trying to find a cheap old computer for someone to donate to me so i can download it onto a cd and install it on that computer.
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Can anyone teach linux/unix?
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Sure thing!mac_philo said:
Free Shell Accounts:
http://hnsg.net/
system: Linux
*****X (as in girl dog X
), telnet, traceroute, SSH, mutt, python, perl, nmap, lynx, telnet-SSLhttp://www.moonlightglade.net/shells/
ssh, ftp, webspace at http://www.moonlightglade.net/~username FREE, but depending on the assessment of your application form: ability to run: bots, proxies, and service/server type programs. Serving an existing domain name's website from moonlightglade.net's apache webserver via the use of vhosts. mysql databases. email referrers and outgoing mail. (incoming mail planned but not currently avalible)
http://www.metawire.org
Server: FreeBSD
email, banner free web hosting, every standard unix feature, browsers such as lynx and links, IRC, compilers (gcc, g++), PERL, vi, pico, and anything you can think to compile.
http://www.polarhome.com/
Servers: Red Hat Linux, Debian Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenVMS, OpenBSD, Solaris, Ultrix
FTP access is free
$10 (unit) one time fee for shell access
- Anonymous FTP
- Private FTP
- Personal home page
- Email @polarhome.com
- Spam "black hole"
- POP3/IMAP client
- WAP mail reader
- 10-20Mb free disk space
- POP3 and IMAP account
- Spam/Virus free e-mail
- Perl, PHP, CGI web environment
- Kerberized local hosts
- Useful network queries
- Lot of documentation
- Official mirrors
- Culture of net usage
- Support for development
- Mailing lists
- CVS mirrors
- IRC server
- IRC proxy, bouncer
- IPv6 network environment
- IPv6 vhosts
- MySQL databases
http://www.freeshell.org/
http://sdf.lonestar.org/
Old Unix Community
Requires $1 for signup
games, email, usenet, chat, bboard,
webspace, gopherspace, programming utilities, archivers, browsers, and
more.
http://fredrik.homelinux.org/nuke/html/
Free MUD hosting (full atm but I've seen openings)
http://www.shellcity.net/
Just a shell info site.
A few shell commands:
cd <directory> - Changes to the specified directory, similar to DOS's cd command. To switch to the directory above the current one, specify two periods as the directory, i.e. cd ... Typing cd ~ will return you to your home directory (the tilde is shorthand for the path your home directory, e.g. /home2/user/cooldude).
gunzip <file> - Extracts the contents of a gz file (which are similar to zip files), e.g. gunzip nice.tcl.gz.
kill -9 <pid> - Kills the process with the specified pid number. You can get the pid number of a process by using the ps x command described below. This command is useful for killing your Eggdrop if you're unable to shut it down by other means.
ls - This is very similar to the DOS dir command. It lists the contents of the current directory. For a more detailed listing, type ls -al.
mv <oldfile> <newfile> - Renames a file or directory. You can also move a file with this command. For example, mv chatty.tcl scripts/chatty.tcl with move chatty.tcl to the scripts directory (relative to the current directory).
passwd - Allows you to change your shell account password (it will prompt for your old password, then ask you to enter a new one).
pico -w <file> - Opens the specified file in the pico text editor. The -w option prevents Tcl scripts from being messed up due to line wrapping.
ps x - Shows all current 'processes' you have running on the shell. This includes things such as Eggdrop, IRC bouncers, and open telnet and FTP sessions. This command is useful for getting the pid (process ID) number of a process. To view the resource usage of your processes, type ps ux.
pwd - Shows the current working directory path, e.g. /home2/user/cooldude/mybot.
quota - Shows how much disk space is allocated to you, and how much you're using.
rm <file> - Deletes a file. To delete a directory and all its contents (including subdirectories), use rm -rf <directory>.
tar -xf <file> - Used to extract a tar file. To extract a tar.gz or .tgz file, use tar -zxf <file> (if that doesn't work, use gunzip <file> then tar -xf <file>).
netstat - Displays all connections going to and from the server.
ps aux - Displays all processes running on the system and their resource usage.
top - Displays details about system resource usage.
uptime - Displays the current uptime and server load.
vhosts - This will display a list of vhosts available for you to use (note that not all shells have this command).
If you are using windows you may need Putty to connect to some of these shell accounts. SSH protocol is more secure than Telnet so many services do not allow Telnet access. You may not need this program but if you do than I posted the link just in case.
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Seems none of those providers still hand out free shells with outgoing connections (irc,web,ftp).
I guess these things go obsolete quickly.
I guess these things go obsolete quickly.
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Well yeah its hard to find a free full everything access account anonymously since all the kids abused them trying to play hacker games. You can get nice pay accounts for cheap and others may have a one time fee like for $1 just so they can know who you are. Still lots of good free anon accounts but you wont get it all till they know who you are. Make sense?
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It makes sense. I made the same claim 10 messages back that there were no free full shell accounts.
I assumed your examples were going to disconfirm that belief.
I'm sure the newbie will find your command list helpful, though.
I assumed your examples were going to disconfirm that belief.
I'm sure the newbie will find your command list helpful, though.
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Yeah I think I said different servers have different services. Really the ultimate account is on your own machine or on a friends box that has some trust for you if you carry yourself that way. Yep those links are more geared for learning purposes or certain services they offer that you use such as PHP and Mysql and web space. Or part of this thread has to do with programming and these servers offer compilers for public use. For those that are only interested in running their own no holds bared irc server, well these accounts are not for them. I had some more really good links but so many come and go.
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WeakButHopeful
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FC, I don't think "newbie" is disrespectful. I've been dealing with computers for 32 years, and PCs for 20 years, but I'm still a newbie in many areas (Linux, XML, VB.Net, Java, etc.) Newbie is a temporary term, but is accurate to describe many of us in certain areas. If you remain curious and hard working and keep notes of what you don't know (as I suggested in a previous post) you'll go through an endless cycle of being a newbie, somewhat experienced, competent, advanced, expert in various areas, meaning you'll always be a newbie in some of them.
Someone else mentioned the link http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
which is a very interesting document. In there it explains that the Internet is a meritocracy (which is a fancy way of saying that those who rule are the ones who deserve to rule, because of a combination of knowledge, obeying the community rules and helping others). So, combined with what I said above, in your life you may find yourself (someday) being king of the heap in one discussion forum while in another you're still a newbie. Actually this is good, because in some areas of life your status depends on where you live or who you know or how much money you have or what degrees you have on the wall. On the Internet those things may help you acquire knowledge but at least the door is still open through hard work and careful study to go very far.
Also, of course, admission that we are all "newbies" in many areas is a humble attitude, which is an important virtue for a Christian.
So please don't be offended. We all want to help you, and part of helping is getting you used to the terms and expectations of the Internet community. When all is said and done I find the Internet to be a lot of fun (though with fun comes caution).
God bless!
Someone else mentioned the link http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
which is a very interesting document. In there it explains that the Internet is a meritocracy (which is a fancy way of saying that those who rule are the ones who deserve to rule, because of a combination of knowledge, obeying the community rules and helping others). So, combined with what I said above, in your life you may find yourself (someday) being king of the heap in one discussion forum while in another you're still a newbie. Actually this is good, because in some areas of life your status depends on where you live or who you know or how much money you have or what degrees you have on the wall. On the Internet those things may help you acquire knowledge but at least the door is still open through hard work and careful study to go very far.
Also, of course, admission that we are all "newbies" in many areas is a humble attitude, which is an important virtue for a Christian.
So please don't be offended. We all want to help you, and part of helping is getting you used to the terms and expectations of the Internet community. When all is said and done I find the Internet to be a lot of fun (though with fun comes caution).
God bless!
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hi, I use vmware, it makes a virtual machine to run any operating system you wish (as long as it is able to run on a pc & not mac, alpha, mips or other hardware type) then you can be running windows, & access all your favorite web browsers & such, while running linux also on 1 machine....
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depends on what you want to do.
if you want to run it as a desktop, not really.
if you want to run it as a server, yeah I sure hope you know what you're doing.
if you want to run it as a desktop, not really.
if you want to run it as a server, yeah I sure hope you know what you're doing.
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One really good resource for learning linux is your local 'lug' or Linux Users Group.
http://www.linux.org/groups/usa/
The lug in my home town has monthly linux clinics. noobs bring their systems and gurus help them install/configure linux. Many "gurus" also have lines into cheap systems that can be trashed and played with, since it is easy to build 'frankenboxes' when you do upgrades for friends on the side, and are paid with the old stuff.
http://www.linux.org/groups/usa/
The lug in my home town has monthly linux clinics. noobs bring their systems and gurus help them install/configure linux. Many "gurus" also have lines into cheap systems that can be trashed and played with, since it is easy to build 'frankenboxes' when you do upgrades for friends on the side, and are paid with the old stuff.
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My best advice would be to find your local LUG.
Durelen's and mac_philo's links are also high-quality.
Feel free to PM, e-mail, or instantly message me if you need assistance. It'll be a good learning experience for both of us. (You master a subject best by having to teach it... ;-))
Durelen's and mac_philo's links are also high-quality.
Feel free to PM, e-mail, or instantly message me if you need assistance. It'll be a good learning experience for both of us. (You master a subject best by having to teach it... ;-))
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I have Red Hat 7.2 besides Windows XP. I don’t use Linux much, because it doesn’t fit my needs—TeX is about the only thing I use (and there’s a Windows version called MikTeX if you’re interested). So, pretty much, I partitioned and allocated hard disk space for a trial. Therefore, for FC and anyone else who wants to give Linux a try, I second the recommendation for the distro that runs off a CD, namely Knoppix.
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Knoppix is *great* I give copies away to friends all the time - What it is good *for* is
1. Understanding the capabilities of Linux - Knoppix has a ton of functionality that just works on most systems (can have problems if some hardware is too new)
2. Demonstrating that the program that isn't working on your installation *can* work, since it *is* working when you boot Knoppix.
3. Giving you a list of installed apps to start from and compare
( dpkg -l |less ) or ( dpkg -l > /path/installed.txt ) (have to mount a writable drive... FAT or EXTx or Network path, not a local NTFS...)
If you want to play with scanners, cd writers etc, you will need to mount a writable drive for this as well.
4. Troubleshooting hardware/software problems. If your installation of whatever is crashing, but Knoppix runs just dandy - your problem is probably software. If your system is crashing and it is even more unstable when booting/using Knoppix - good indicator of hardware issue - and boottime may even indicate what the problem is.
What Knoppix is not good for:
1. Learning the administrative side of Linux
2. Permanent use of Linux. Running off the harddrive is more convenient - and a 2nd drive is cheap.
I am 'learning' Linux myself, and the best thing for me, was to just pick a computer, and run it. I have been using Linux as my primary desktop now for about 6 months, and when I need some new functionality, it is study time. It keeps getting easier in small increments...
1. Understanding the capabilities of Linux - Knoppix has a ton of functionality that just works on most systems (can have problems if some hardware is too new)
2. Demonstrating that the program that isn't working on your installation *can* work, since it *is* working when you boot Knoppix.
3. Giving you a list of installed apps to start from and compare
( dpkg -l |less ) or ( dpkg -l > /path/installed.txt ) (have to mount a writable drive... FAT or EXTx or Network path, not a local NTFS...)
If you want to play with scanners, cd writers etc, you will need to mount a writable drive for this as well.
4. Troubleshooting hardware/software problems. If your installation of whatever is crashing, but Knoppix runs just dandy - your problem is probably software. If your system is crashing and it is even more unstable when booting/using Knoppix - good indicator of hardware issue - and boottime may even indicate what the problem is.
What Knoppix is not good for:
1. Learning the administrative side of Linux
2. Permanent use of Linux. Running off the harddrive is more convenient - and a 2nd drive is cheap.
I am 'learning' Linux myself, and the best thing for me, was to just pick a computer, and run it. I have been using Linux as my primary desktop now for about 6 months, and when I need some new functionality, it is study time. It keeps getting easier in small increments...
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