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Can anyone explain how the moth got it's owl eyes?

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So do tell, is ink that adheres to paper in a book mere chemistry?
Mere chemistry? Your super-power seems to be snide dismissal of anything not to your liking. There is nothing "mere" about chemistry and this is especially true of carbon chemistry.

The means by which ink adheres to the pages of a book is through chemistry. The means by which sighted individuals are able to see that ink is through the evolution of the eye by chemistry. The means by which we can perceive the significance of those ink marks on the page is through neural structures that have emerged over time by many, many trillions of chemical reactions. Chemistry!

I'm sorry you view this awesome power of chemistry as a mere trife to be dismissed by arrogant and self-applied ignorance. Most of your fellow Christians see this power of chemistry as something God given, a position that I think to be mistaken, but one which I greatly respect.
 
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Is that all it is, just chemistry, w out regard to the specificity of order? Really?

Can you even make the attempt to describe what order you mean, or are you just randomly picking words in an attempt to sound smart?
 
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The wind blows and people here it, but don't know where it comes from or where it goes.
We know exactly where the wind comes from and where it goes. Anyone with a basic knowledge of climatology or physics does.
 
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Can you even make the attempt to describe what order you mean, or are you just randomly picking words in an attempt to sound smart?
If the order of nucleotides and ink on paper is just chemistry , then how do you explain the sequence?
 
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If the order of nucleotides and ink on paper is just chemistry , then how do you explain the sequence?
Um... one after/next to the other... ? How do you explain it? Specifically.
 
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Is that all it is, just chemistry, w out regard to the specificity of order? Really?
AAhhh, I saw that one coming. This is not what you asked.
Or why do you think that I already wrote "And now we can expect the goalposts to move again."?
The dirty creationists tricks are so predictable.
 
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The chances of taking one tile out of a bag of Scrabble tiles at a time and spelling BIBLE are 1 in 8,149,303,680.

That's not counting the blank tiles.

Imagine the odds of spelling: SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUSISTICSCALIMENTALINTINE!
 
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I feel that trying to use odds to try and somehow disprove evolution is a bit... counter intuitive. Trying to work backwards from an event that already happened, with the variables unknown in every way, will of course lead to inflated numbers for the odds.
But that doesn't mean the odds having occurred as being 1:1, since they happened.
 
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The chances of taking one tile out of a bag of Scrabble tiles at a time and spelling BIBLE are 1 in 8,149,303,680.

That's not counting the blank tiles.

Imagine the odds of spelling: SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALIDOCIOUSISTICSCALIMENTALINTINE!
The odds of an event happening after it has happened are necessarily 1. Calculating them after the fact is meaningless.

But, just for discussion sake, what if there were rules? For instance, what if certain letters had a much higher affinity for being together like "EX" or "IOUS". Also, what if the sequence could be stitched together from multiple separate sequences? What if there were a billion+ bags of scrabble pieces all being searched at the same time?
 
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The odds of an event happening after it has happened are necessarily 1. Calculating them after the fact is meaningless.

But, just for discussion sake, what if there were rules? For instance, what if certain letters had a much higher affinity for being together like "EX" or "IOUS". Also, what if the sequence could be stitched together from multiple separate sequences? What if there were a billion+ bags of scrabble pieces all being searched at the same time?

True, true.
 
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No, it's just pointing out that your commentary and your demands are nonsensical comments and 'questions' from a person who really does not know as much as they think they do.

What laws govern the sequence of the nucleotides?
 
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Is that all it is, just chemistry, w out regard to the specificity of order? Really?
What "specificity of order" (whatever that means) is required for ink to adhere to paper?
 
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Correct.
Then how did the specific, against all odds, USEFUL specific sequence form?

Chance.

Now, you can claim it's "against all odds" until your blue in the face and your fingers fall off from typing it, but you have ZERO WAY OF PROVING that any biological sequence was created. If you do, and it's not just a rehash of your "ALL SEQUENCES ARE CREATED!" spiel, then show us.
 
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