Can anyone explain how the moth got it's owl eyes?

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Which came first?

Not getting draw into this, AV.

Make another 'challenge' if it'll make you happy.

 

[AV1611VET]

You're so fixated on that, it's kind of sad.

Should I look the other way and pretend it doesn't happen?

 

[driewerf]

For a typical protein length of about 300 amino acids, more than 10^390 different polypeptide chains could theoretically be made. This is such an enormous number that to produce just one molecule of each kind would require many more atoms than exist in the universe.

"For a typical protein length of about 300 amino acids, more than 10^390 different polypeptide chains could theoretically be made. This is such an enormous number that to produce just one molecule of each kind would require many more atoms than exist in the universe."

Well, the Rugged landscape experiment, described in post n° 617 shows this statement wrong. A gene can emerge from scratch in 20 generations.
When hard empirical evidence contradicts a theory, it's the theory that is wrong.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Should I look the other way and pretend it doesn't happen?

Again: sad.

 

[AV1611VET]

Again: sad.

You would think evolutionists would use Mother Nature's history of animals killing each other -- (some for recreational purposes) -- as the be-all explanation as to why her crowning creation continues that legacy.

But evolutionists don't like to talk about the dark side of their doctrine.

And frankly, I'm glad.

Because it's all bologna in the first place.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You would think evolutionists would use Mother Nature's history of animals killing each other -- (some for recreational purposes) -- as the be-all explanation as to why her crowning creation continues that legacy.

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But evolutionists don't like to talk about the dark side of their doctrine.

And frankly, I'm glad.

Because it's all bologna in the first place.

And we come to the vulture mentality of yours.

Class act. Really.

 

[AV1611VET]

And we come to the vulture mentality of yours.

Really?

Is that what you call it when other animals do the same thing?

Or do/did you call it: fight or flight / survival of the fittest?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Really?

Is that what you call it when other animals do the same thing?

Or do/did you call it: fight or flight / survival of the fittest?

Nope, I call your desire to trot out any and all horrible events and lay them at the feet of evolution or academia or scientists as a vulture mentality. Because that's what it is.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nope, I call your desire to trot out any and all horrible events and lay them at the feet of evolution or academia or scientists as a vulture mentality.

Do you know what the #1 killer on Earth is by a wide margin?

The domestic cat.

But that aside, it's ... ironic ... that you call my examples "horrible events," while that mold over there in the corner is excreting mycotoxins to defend itself against its own invading kind.

Because that's what it is.

Uh huh.

Science is hypocritical, isn't it?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Do you know what the #1 killer on Earth is by a wide margin?

The domestic cat.

But that aside, it's ... ironic ... that you call my examples "horrible events," while that mold over there in the corner is excreting mycotoxins to defend itself against its own invading kind.

Cats hunting to survive, and people giving into psychosis and going on a killing, are not the same thing at all. They really are not.

Uh huh.

Science is hypocritical, isn't it?

Not at all. You're just a person who likes to use death to try and pretend that you have any moral high ground.

 

[AV1611VET]

Cats hunting to survive, and people giving into psychosis and going on a killing, are not the same thing at all. They really are not.

That's right.

As long as you say, "Cats hunting to survive."

Some time ago the Animal Planet Network gave the top ten killers on Earth.

They said the number one killer ... by a wide margin ... was the domestic cat.

This due to the fact that the domestic cat will kill anything it can subdue, mainly just for the sport of killing.

Not at all. You're just a person who likes to use death to try and pretend that you have any moral high ground.

I'm glad you're bringing morals into the argument.

Morals are few and far between in the animal world, aren't they?

Eating their own children offspring, swapping wives, shacking up, killing for fun, just to name a few.

 

[AV1611VET]

Tell me, Warden, which picture galls you more?

This?

Or this?

I suspect the first one does.

And if so, for what reason?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

@AV1611VET , I don't care about this enough to warrant actually responding to either comment.

Just drop it, or make a 'challenge' thread on it. Because all I'm seeing from you right now is you being a troll.

 

[AV1611VET]

@AV1611VET , I don't care about this enough to warrant actually responding to either comment.

Just drop it, or make a 'challenge' thread on it. Because all I'm seeing from you right now is you being a troll.

Fair enough.

And if it helps your side any, I just checked Snopes, and they said lemmings DO NOT commit mass suicide.

That was a rumor started by Disney.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Fair enough.

And if it helps your side any, I just checked Snopes, and they said lemmings DO NOT commit mass suicide.

That was a rumor started by Disney.

I was surprised when I found that out as well.

 

[AV1611VET]

I was surprised when I found that out as well.

Until we talk again ...

 

[Astrid]

You have been told multiple times, but you have chosen not to listen. The problem is at your end, not this end.

Speaking of end...

 

[Shemjaza]

The sequence is VERY SPECIFIC, it is a code that gets translated. Tell us how the sequence became arranged.

Random variations over large populations with selection only maintaining the functional versions.

Describe it as you like, but the sequences DO get translated into proteins. And proteins do not grow on trees. all purposes not possible to be created by chance.
"For a typical protein length of about 300 amino acids, more than 10^390 different polypeptide chains could theoretically be made. This is such an enormous number that to produce just one molecule of each kind would require many more atoms than exist in the universe."

Each change from the simpler not reproducing monomer chemicals doesn't need to occur in a particular chain of events for a single chain. It's important to remember that each successful variation will multiply to fill the environment massively increasing the sample space for a successful variant.

A particular genetic make up is vanishingly unlikely, but the task of survival doesn't require a particular technique.

It's like the old playing cards analogy... the chance of a single specific hand is very, very low, but the chance of a winning hand is significantly higher.

 

[Aaron112]

Because it's all bologna in the first place.

The world loves bologna !

 

[Aaron112]

Do you know what the #1 killer on Earth is by a wide margin?
The domestic cat.
But that aside, it's ... ironic ... that you call my examples "horrible events," while that mold over there in the corner is excreting mycotoxins to defend itself against its own invading kind.
Science is hypocritical, isn't it?

I guess the previous pages of posts/ context/ might validate saying "cats", or might not,

but men are by far much more savage killing many many more men, women, and babies every day.