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That doesn't necessarily follow.
The way Adam was composed as a creature is not the same topic as his destiny as that creature; intimately related, but different.
Responsibility is His attribute, not sinfulness.If God is responsible for sin, how is sin not an attribute of God ?
Responsibility is His attribute, not sinfulness.
Man wasn't created sinful, he became sinful.
The image wasn't lost(Rom1;20), it was defaced.
Give to every man that asketh of thee; (Luke 6:30 KJV)unfortunately that is one choice god has not given you
Could you explain what these are, to make sure we understand the terms alike ?What man did with the image is not what the image is.
Who told you man has no true choice?
You're using the relative, subjective word "true" like you think a predestined choice isn't a choice (truly). What in the definition of choice precludes that act of decision from having been determined by the omniscient creator of the creature who makes that decision? I assert it is still a choice, just one that you personaly value less for some reason (as if you don't own it), because God destined it.
I'm willing for the sake of convenience to at least start with Merriam-Webster. Good Enough?
Main Entry: CHOICE Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English chois, from Anglo-French, from choisir to choose, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German kiosan to choose more at choose Date: 13th century 1: the act of choosing : selection <finding it hard to make a choice>
2: power of choosing : option <you have no choice>
3 a: the best part : cream b: a person or thing chosen <she was their first choice>
4: a number and variety to choose among <a plan with a wide choice of options>
5: care in selecting6: a grade of meat between prime and good
of choice : to be preferred
synonyms choice , option , alternative , preference , selection , election mean the act or opportunity of choosing or the thing chosen. choice suggests the opportunity or privilege of choosing freely <freedom of choice>. option implies a power to choose that is specifically granted or guaranteed <the option of paying now or later>. alternative implies a need to choose one and reject another possibility <equally attractive alternatives>. preference suggests a choice guided by one's judgment or predilections <a preference for cool weather>. selection implies a range of choice <a varied selection of furniture>. election implies an end or purpose which requires exercise of judgment <doing a tax return forces certain elections on you>.
Main Entry: pre·des·tine Pronunciation: Function: transitive verb
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French or Latin; Anglo-French predestiner, from Latin praedestinare, from prae- + destinare to determine more at destine Date: 14th century : to destine, decree, determine, appoint, or settle beforehand ; especially : predestinate 1
I believe we have free will and so choice and the ability to Love God or reject his embrace.
drstevej solid gold said:Freewill In Heaven (apologies to Eric Clapton)
Beyond the door,
There's peace I'm sure,
And I know there's got to be
Free will in heaven.
Would you throw a fit
If He controlled you in heaven?
Would it be the same
If He bound your will in heaven?
You must be strong
And carry on,
'Cause you know there's no free will
Here in heaven.
Is there free will in Heaven?
Can we chose to leave? Spit in His face?
why not?
why not?
I gotta make my commute now.
Talk to ya pretty soon, I hope.
Looks a few inches of snow has fallen already.
Oh, thank you ever so much,may the Lord be with you in your traveling and bring you safely home
he turned from god
he worshipped other gods
he was not saved
he was warned TWICE of what would happen if he did it
and he still did it
there is NOTHING included in the end of the verse about him repenting(and there would have been had it been the case)
given that he was a chosen vessel of god and turned...it would have been vital information had he turned back
the lesson here is that anyone can fall if they turn from god
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