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theseed said:An Anglican CalvinistsNow I've seen it all :o :o
Good Day, Cajunhillbillycajunhillbilly said:Actually, the Anglican 39 Articles of Religion are very Calvinistic in tone. Men like J I Packer (who wrote Knowing God) are strong Calvinistic Anglicans. There is even a breakoff group from the Episcopal Church called the REFORMED Episcopal Church, which is strongly Calvinistic.
I agree with what is quoted in bold.But, I also believe, that up until that point of real saving faith, God in His mercy, would save that child, should that child die. I have been doing some study on that very issue, because when I was at a conference recently, and that question was asked of a panel, of very astute theologians--no one gave an adequate answer. And I thought, "How can we have theologians who don't know the answer to that question," "What about the children before the age of accountability, when they die, do they go to heaven?" I think the answer is "yes," and I think it is a strong "YES," based upon the confidence of David who said, when his little baby died, "He cannot come to me, but I shall go to him." And David knew where he was going; David knew where he was going to heaven--he knew that. There wasn't any question in his mind about that, and when he said, "I shall go to him," in those words was the anticipation, and the hope and the joy of reunion. Now, some people have said, "Well, all he meant was, 'I am going to be buried next to him.'" There wouldn't be any reason to say, "He can't come to me, but, Oh I'm so glad I am going to be buried next to him!" There would be no joy in that; that wouldn't satisfy anything. So I think at that point, he was expressing the confidence that he was going to heaven, he knew that, and that's exactly where he would find his son, who had died before the age of accountability.
Street Preacher said:MacArthur also wrote:
I agree with what is quoted in bold.
Good Day, Karenmrshoward said:Well, I haven't read the entire thread because I'm at work and 30 pages is a bit much of this---but I do have a question, and I don't have an opinion on it, just wondering: we are dead in our trespasses and sins, correct? I think we can all agree the Bible says this. So when does the soul die? Or are we born with dead souls?
Not sure what you are getting at here? I do believe that man is concevied with a soul.When does the soul enter the body? (I am NOT entirely convinced it does so at conception---and this is not a post about abortion, so don't go there---but because fertilized eggs often fail to implant in the uterus, it seems ridiculous that there are souls of those children floating around somewhere. but I digress).
Perhaps the reason a child goes to heaven when it dies is that it's soul hasn't died?
I'd love some opinions!
Karen
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