It is a trolling of a humorous response to a post about “poor Calvin not being allowed to Rest In Peace” that wants to rehash the C v. A debate (as if there has not been enough ink spilled on that topic.)
C v. A debate? Whole words would be appreciated rather than code, just for the sake of clarity. If it’s Calvinism versus Arminianism, that’s not the topic and there are many different non Calvinistic perspectives
(though Calvinists prefer the C v. A dichotomy.)
Most non Calvinist posters on the forum have never read from Arminius and couldn’t begin to teach you what Arminianism means.
I for one am not an Arminian and neither is John, not so far as I’m aware. At least from my point of view, Arminius was too deep into Augustinian theology and employed ideas like prevenient grace in order to remove an issue man simply doesn’t have
(i.e. an inability to respond to Gods own calls to be reconciled.)
Point being there’s more than just the boring Calvinism v. Arminianism dispute going on nowadays, insisting on the two categories as if the field is no wider doesn’t do much for the fruitful conversation. Calvinists have a cultural habit of insisting upon C vs. A rather than engaging with the actual points of contention.
Soteriology was addressed and rejected in a previous post in the conversation.
Which number post was that? Because I don’t think John would agree with you that soteriology has been rejected on his side or mine.
Do you really want me to start to defend Calvinism on this topic? I don’t.
You don’t have to, it’s your choice and if you’re not interested it’s best you don’t reply. Right? Surely the least fruitful thing would be for you to continue posting about how fruitless everything seems to be, instead of saving your pearls from the swine who don’t know how to appreciate them.
My thought on conflict however is that it often takes two to create fruitless and disharmonious conversation, so you could try and engage with Johns point of contention, maybe sharpening your own iron or risk edifying others in the process, because so far accusing others of trolling and insisting the whole thing is fruitless is the most fruitless thing people can do.
Lots of your points so far appear to be Calvinistic culture talking points.
