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Because we aren’t any better than our neighbors.Why would Jesus command his followers to love our neighbors, if God himself does not love our neighbors?
Jesus gives us the answer - He says we are to love our neighbor, so that we can be like Jesus (who is a son of the heavenly Father). Its not do as I say, not as I do.Because we aren’t any better than our neighbors.
Would you send your neighbor to hell for sinning against you?Jesus gives us the answer - He says we are to love our neighbor, so that we can be like Jesus (who is a son of the heavenly Father). Its not do as I say, not as I do.
Before that happens, you would have to blow through a lifetime of opportunities to repent. God's love is intended to lead sinners to repentance - even the sinners who presume on the riches of God's kindness, forbearance, and patience for their entire lifetime.Would you send your neighbor to hell for sinning against you?
That’s not an answer to the question.Before that happens, you would have to blow through a lifetime of opportunities to repent. God's love is intended to lead sinners to repentance - even the sinners who presume on the riches of God's kindness, forbearance, and patience for their entire lifetime.
Romans 2:4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?
P1) God Loves All and desires all to be saved
God does not love everybody
On earth, I don't have the authority or wisdom to take God's position as my neighbors Judge - so the answer is no. However 1 Cor 6:3 is interesting:That’s not an answer to the question.
How do you interpret John 3:16?
If by Divine Reprobation you mean people are destined by God for hell before they were born - that is not explicitly stated in scripture. If true, I can't see how a matter of that importance would not be explicitly stated.God does not love everybody.
Divine reprobation is biblical doctrine, albeit, a difficult one. All doctrine should humble us and make us look to Jesus Christ alone for salvation bringing to light our helplessness and hopelessness without Him.
So because you don’t know better, you should love your neighbor as commanded. God does know better, and it’s His right to hate all who sin against Him.On earth, I don't have the authority or wisdom to take God's position as my neighbors Judge - so the answer is no. However 1 Cor 6:3 is interesting:
1 Cor 6:3 Do you not know that we shall judge angels? How much more, things that pertain to this life?
"Jacob I loved Esau I hated..." "for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls"If by Divine Reprobation you mean people are destined by God for hell before they were born - that is not explicitly stated in scripture. If true, I can't see how a matter of that importance would not be explicitly stated.
But notice there is nothing about damnation or reprobation there."Jacob I loved Esau I hated..." "for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls"
You're too intelligent for that tripe.God hates people. That's the only way for a Calvinist to avoid universal reconciliation, given the OP's premises. In order to secure the doctrine of eternal hell, God must hate.
I think y'all have sufficiently defeated the OP's argument. You did it at the cost of divine love, but you did it. Congratulations.
Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.God does know better, and it’s His right to hate all who sin against Him.
You’ll have to give me your understanding of these verses. I don’t want to assume.Romans 5:8 But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
1 John 2:2 And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
No you love to assume. You assume that God loves some sinners and hates others - whereas scripture says he is kind and patient to all (Romans 2:4) in order that they may repent. Judgement only comes after a lifetime of rejection to his calls for repentance.You’ll have to give me your understanding of these verses. I don’t want to assume.
Kind and patient but doesn't intent to save. This was already address above, "sheep fattening for the slaughter..."No you love to assume. You assume that God loves some sinners and hates others - whereas scripture says he is kind and patient to all (Romans 2:4) in order that they may repent. Judgement only comes after a lifetime of rejection to his calls for repentance.
What you say conflicts with the clear meaning of 2 Peter 3:9. Notice that the object any and all - means all of mankind. Its there twice so that there will be no confusion.Kind and patient but doesn't intent to save.
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